Hit the Brakes!!

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Ken Bjonnes
Hey. What's up? Ken from Palm Beach Dyno here. Welcome to the latest episode of the Hit the Brakes podcast, where we sit down and have long conversations with high performance people. This next guest was at the birth of EFI tuning, and is the go to guy for more tech support. Whether you're headed to Bonneville, Pikes Peak or the drag strip, this is the guy you want on your team.

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Ken Bjonnes
Please welcome Shane Tecklenburg. All right, Shane, really appreciate you making the trip out here specifically for this. No problem man. I've been a big fan for a long time. following you on the Motec stuff. and, it's great to have you here.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Well, thanks for thanks for the offer. And thanks for doing this. I think it's pretty important that somebody kind of documents this stuff and gets a chance to talk to people that are in the industry to kind of spread around.

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Shane Tecklenburg
What's actually like to do it.

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Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, I, I love watching your Facebook videos. That's where I, I don't know if you post them other places, but I watch them on Facebook and every time I say I see one, I'm like, man, I wish you would do more of these. I wish I, you know, I could, you know, talk to him for a couple hours.

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Ken Bjonnes
So here's my chance. So awesome. Anyway, you know.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I don't know. Someone's watching them. Yeah.

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Ken Bjonnes
Oh, a lot of people are watching them. You got a lot of fans out there? Of course. so you know the place. I like to start with everybody. Because there's plenty of people watching this that would love to do what you do or what I do or what Paul does. And, you know, maybe they don't really understand.

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Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, they're crazy.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Right? Anybody wants to be like Paul, but there's.

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Ken Bjonnes
you know, people like to know, you know, people's origin stories, or at least like, what lit the fire to get into it. You know, me personally, I didn't grow up around horsepower. I think you did. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about that. What lit the fire and what really made you decide to make this your life?

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Shane Tecklenburg
I was predestined towards cars. My dad's an auto shop teacher. Or was an auto shop teacher. When I was born, he owned a, car repair shop on the side, and then eventually opened up a car performance shop, kind of as an offshoot of that. And then further to that, we sold everything and moved out of California.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, midlife crisis, whatever. Even when we moved to Alaska, they bought an auto parts store. Wow. Kenai, Alaska, which is a remote city about 100 miles away from Anchorage. and so that was like, you know, reality check for all of us. And, you know, I was only eight years old, but I, you know, I remember going to fast food and all that stuff in California where there wasn't fast food within a hundred miles up there.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Right? It was just a totally different reality that was great at the age that I was, I was I think it was 6 to 8 years old. and so that's the time in your life when you're a child that you want to go out and just tear shit up and set it on fire and chop trees. I mean, we literally could do it, right?

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Ken Bjonnes
You could do anything you wanted.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Absolutely. The backyard was the forest, so, you know, run amuck.

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Shane Tecklenburg
and then, he ended up selling that company and.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Moving back to California.

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Shane Tecklenburg
1983. So what happened is,

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Shane Tecklenburg
Because because of the federal emission standards and California emission standards, the manufacturers started putting computers on cars in 1980, and they were computer controlled carburetors and computer controlled ignition.

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Shane Tecklenburg
To better the.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Emissions, especially in California. So the problem with that was that, you know, you had all of these guys that were working on cars, independent shops when these things started coming out of warranty in 82, 83.

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Shane Tecklenburg
There's no information available.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And, you know, a guy opens up the hood of a car that he's used to seeing a carburetor under the hood, and there's a carburetor there. There's wires hanging out of it. He didn't know what to do with it.

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Ken Bjonnes
Right.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So my dad works for a company called, Allen Test Products, and they built, scopes to be able to do, ignition and engine diagnostics. He also did some training at a local community college. And he realized that there was a need for.

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Shane Tecklenburg
a resource for people that didn't.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Work for the factory to be able to have information and at least, if not information, someone that understood how it worked and have to help them fix these cars, otherwise they're all going to go broke. So he started this hotline in 83. It was a call. What would be a call center now, right?

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Ken Bjonnes
Wow. That's, that's pretty advanced in 1983. Yeah.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Well, and so, you.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Know, part of the problem is it's.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Difficult to get, the psyche of people.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Working on cars and solving problems is they their ego gets in the way, and they're afraid to ask for help. So it was difficult for him to sell at first because no one wanted to call and say they didn't know how to fix something. But, eventually, you know, he worked through enough people. He built enough of a clientele to kind of stay above water.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And then what happened.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Is he, took the opportunity to go meet up with one of the,

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Shane Tecklenburg
One of the heads of the department of Shell Oil Company that was in charge of their auto care dealers. so.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Back in those days, the shell station on the corner.

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Shane Tecklenburg
a lot of times had a repair shop that was connected to it. And, you know, the guys were replacing water pumps and doing oil changes and servicing cars and doing whatever they were doing. but the problem was when the cars became more difficult to.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Fix.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And those guys couldn't fix those cars anymore, they basically went broke. And when they went broke, they couldn't sell gas.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And that was.

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Shane Tecklenburg
What shell was interested in doing, was selling.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Gas. They didn't give a shit.

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Shane Tecklenburg
About fixing cars, but they knew if those stations were gone, no gas was going to get pumped.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So my dad kind of hit.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Him up and told him, hey, I think I can help.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You with this. you.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Know, you can use my hotline and sign your sign. Your dealer's up on my service. And so they.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Basically.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Did in 86. They went for it. They signed up every auto care station in the country on his service. So he went from a kind of.

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Shane Tecklenburg
A like a one.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Or a two man band to, you know, 6 or 8. And then shortly thereafter, Conquest Auto Parts came on board the same kind of thing. what would happen is.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, if you didn't.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Know what was wrong with the car, you would just start replacing parts. So you'd call the parts store and say, hey, I need an ignition module, and you put the ignition module in it and it still doesn't spark. And then you send the module back and go, oh, that was no good.

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Shane Tecklenburg
now I need a coil, right? And you just keep swapping.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Parts until you hit the one that's wrong.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And that's super.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Costly for the, for the auto parts store and for the chain, because they're having to eat.

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Shane Tecklenburg
All of these.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Supposedly bad parts under warranty. It turns out that there's nothing wrong with them. These guys are just using them for diagnostics. So they.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Signed.

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Shane Tecklenburg
A bunch of their dealers up, through their stores, on my dad's service also. And that turned it into a, you know, 25 man operation. And then pretty soon, snap on came looking around and they started actually selling it off of their truck. They would sell time on their truck to call this service, called, snap on Tech Center.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And I, I was there. And so that's my dad's.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Path, right. And where I ultimately went to work after right after I got out of high school,

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Shane Tecklenburg
In a roundabout way. But being my.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Dad's son and being around cars and engines and motorcycles and whatever.

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Shane Tecklenburg
by the age of about.

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Shane Tecklenburg
14, I got tired of riding bicycles, and I went to my dad's shop every day during the.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Summer with him.

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Shane Tecklenburg
and he had kind of a small workshop next door to the business.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And so I went to.

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Shane Tecklenburg
The swap meet, and I bought a, a mini bike, and I took apart. Took it apart, and I and I built a go kart out of it.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So I was mini bike wheel.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, a whole thread axle, two horse, horizontal shaft, bit brakes, a Stratton, and then I, you know, I used, like, an office chair for seat.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And, you know, front.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Wheels off of. I took my scooter apart and put the front wheels of my scooter in it. So I rode that up and down the street a couple times, and then I got bored with that.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And part of the deal with, with his.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Business was, you know, you'd have people send parts in that they hadn't seen from time to time so they could have them in their hands and describe them to other people on the phone, and they're trying to describe how to fix something.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So there's this.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Pile of parts in the back of the shop. Well, there was a smog pump back there. So I had a look at this smug pump, and I'm like, that looks a lot like a supercharger. It'd be just the right size for my my go kart engine. So I put the smog.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Pump on it.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And I couldn't get it to run right, because of course, you know, it's trying to use a smog pump, blowing through the stock brakes and Stratton carburetor on how familiar you are with that. But it's it's not meant for anything other than idling and, you.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Know, edging, let's say.

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Ken Bjonnes
Right.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So consequently, I couldn't get it to run. Right. And, guy down the street built quarter.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Midget engines, and he told me about a pumper carburetor. So he gave me this carburetor to try, and I adapted that to it, and it still didn't run really good.

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Shane Tecklenburg
One of the guys that worked for my dad.

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Shane Tecklenburg
a guy named Jeff Ellis, he came over and he told.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Me, hey, you know, he could probably fix all.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Of those problems. You have that carburetor if you put electronic fuel injection on it.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So I said, oh, okay. Cool. What?

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Shane Tecklenburg
What's electronic fuel injection? So, you know, he showed me what an injector was. Fuel goes in here and it comes out there and you need here's an old fuel pump and here's an old regulator rig all this shit up, and I'll come over after work and show you how we can make a real simple circuit using a 555 timer off of the points.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And we can trigger this injector and it'll. Life will be great.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So two years later.

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Ken Bjonnes
The go.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Karts gone by the wayside.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I've got the engine on a stand. But we embarked on.

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Shane Tecklenburg
This process of building our own little circuit boards and what would have been mostly an.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Electric fuel.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Injection. I mean, it didn't really have a brain, really. It had a timer circuit, right? And we smoked on the 1000 times, but we were ultimately building our own little circuit board.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So you know that was a huge education, a huge education, not only in.

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Shane Tecklenburg
How engines work, but how electronic fuel injection works, right, and pulse width and how to measure it with a lab scope. You know, I'm 14, 15 and 16 years old. It's a pretty early age to be able to get your fingers in the pie of all that stuff, right?

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Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, I, I did everything I could think of.

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Shane Tecklenburg
To try and make it like a real race car engine. I, I took the camera, actually, I brought another engine, so I had a spare side parts. So I took the cam out of the other engine and welded the lobes up with, with, with the stick arc welder.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And then ground them down on.

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Shane Tecklenburg
The bench grinder until the valves.

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Shane Tecklenburg
At first the valves would hit the head.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So then I just ground the lobe down until the valves wouldn't hit the head anymore. And then that's the cam that it got right. And it was fucking. You almost couldn't get it to start because it had so much overlap. Right? I mean it's almost it's no compression. I don't know when the valve closed because I didn't degree it.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I just went as big as.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I could go to you know, and put it in. So it had huge camshaft. and we.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Ultimately ran the thing on 100% nitro and it was like, no, Briggs of Stratton you've ever heard in your life.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, at one point, somebody gave me a boost gauge.

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Ken Bjonnes
So how did you get into let's stop there for just a second. So, like, out of nowhere, you're messing with this engine, which, you know.

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Shane Tecklenburg
We'll see.

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Ken Bjonnes
I mean, I chose a big step. Well, I guess a battery.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I couldn't afford when I started, I couldn't afford to buy anything.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I didn't have a job. So, like, I, I wanted to run the thing on alcohol. The only alcohol I could get was denatured alcohol at Home Depot. I could get it by the gallons. So, you know, I'd take 20 bucks or something and have someone give me a ride to Home Depot and get two gallons of denatured alcohol.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Now, I had alcohol to run it on. and so we ran it on alcohol. But when.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I, you know, eventually I did.

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Shane Tecklenburg
This and, you know, my dad was kind of, like, looking like, this is dumb.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Right? But eventually I caught his. He I think he could see the.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Educational value in it. And so he said, okay.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Let me help.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So eventually we got some methanol from a real, you know, Ray shop. And then, the, next obvious step being having a drag racing background was nitro methane.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Right.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So, you know, you start this kind of like nitrous, you start with a little bit and you'll. What will that work? Put more and put more in. And look, we weren't doing anything but running it on a stand at that point just to see if we could make it work. Well, it it worked in the end. I mean, it took a long time to make it work, right?

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Shane Tecklenburg
That in the end.

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Shane Tecklenburg
We had an optical crank trigger because we couldn't keep the ignition noise out of the electronics. So we had.

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Shane Tecklenburg
A pickup that was an infrared.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Sensor reading effectively.

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Shane Tecklenburg
A white.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Paint mark on the crank on the on a trigger wheel mounted on the crank. You know, we started out we're just going to use the points and run it off the mag on the, on the brakes.

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Shane Tecklenburg
But this ended up with a.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Dis ignition coil, one side going to ground and the other side going across the plug triggered through, GM ignition module that was firing the coil that was triggered by the 55 timer.

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Shane Tecklenburg
That was triggered by the trigger wheel, which was an optical pickup, LED a white paint mark on the crank with it, with a.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Fiber optic cable that went 5 or 6ft away.

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Shane Tecklenburg
To get away from the ignition.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Noise of the ignition.

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Shane Tecklenburg
System. Okay, in.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Our little electronics.

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Shane Tecklenburg
but anyway, again, all of that.

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Shane Tecklenburg
At a very young age, I was a huge education, and a motivator.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And so even.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Still, when I graduated high school, I just started going to junior college to get, you know, General Ed out of the way or general, whatever fucking classes out of the way. So I didn't know what I was going to do.

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Shane Tecklenburg
and, my dad, one of the other things he was able to do in the, in the late 80s and early 90s, almost all of the.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Aerospace industry in southern California was was closing. I mean, they're moving out of the state or just flat going.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, Rockwell, I every.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Every player that had ever been in the in the 60s and 70s in the early 80s.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Was was in.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Located in Southern California, Rocketdyne again.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Rockwell, Hughes.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You name it, they were there and they were effectively because they'd all lost all their contracts. So they were pretty much closing shop everywhere. and so they were.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Laying off a huge mat, like 10,000 literal.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Rocket scientists that people that built the.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Shuttle.

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Shane Tecklenburg
and built, the Saturn five and you name it, they were they were involved with it. So these people were available on what they were trying to do was retrain them to go do other jobs. And so somebody thought, well, you know, what these guys would be really.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Good at is automotive.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Diagnostics.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, they know electronics.

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Shane Tecklenburg
They know these things.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So it should be a, you know, they should be a shoo in for it. And we need we need technicians right there.

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Shane Tecklenburg
I mean we can't get them now to work. And we really have a problem now. But it was starting to be a problem in.

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Shane Tecklenburg
So regional occupational program rep,

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Shane Tecklenburg
Got involved with my dad's company to do a training program where.

00:13:50:12 - 00:13:52:11
Shane Tecklenburg
They would train these guys.

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Shane Tecklenburg
In a classroom setting.

00:13:54:20 - 00:14:01:07
Shane Tecklenburg
and then they put them to work as, apprentices in shops that were that were.

00:14:01:14 - 00:14:03:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Clients of my dad's. So basically.

00:14:03:03 - 00:14:03:28
Shane Tecklenburg
He went.

00:14:03:28 - 00:14:16:05
Shane Tecklenburg
To a bunch of the guys he knew kind of locally and said, hey, would you consider having this apprentice come in? He needs to do some work for class, but then you can put him to work doing whatever because they're going to ultimately they want to be automotive technician. So like, yeah, we'll do that.

00:14:16:05 - 00:14:18:14
Shane Tecklenburg
So he said to me, said, look, you.

00:14:18:14 - 00:14:21:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Know, I can get you into this class. You're going to be in in training.

00:14:21:17 - 00:14:23:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Program with.

00:14:23:08 - 00:14:26:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Literal rocket scientists, you know, learning about how.

00:14:26:17 - 00:14:27:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Real.

00:14:27:04 - 00:14:29:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Fuel injection and how real cars work, you know, do.

00:14:29:12 - 00:14:34:18
Shane Tecklenburg
You want to you want to do that? And I'm like, oh, you know, and I don't really know if I want to. I'll maybe I don't want.

00:14:34:18 - 00:14:37:21
Shane Tecklenburg
To have anything to do with cars. You know, maybe I might want to do something different.

00:14:37:23 - 00:14:40:14
Shane Tecklenburg
He's he's like, okay.

00:14:40:16 - 00:14:44:11
Shane Tecklenburg
So that might have been like Tuesday. So like Thursday he's like, okay, you're.

00:14:44:11 - 00:14:45:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Fucking quitting.

00:14:45:09 - 00:14:49:11
Shane Tecklenburg
College. And you're going in this class whether you want to or not. So like, all right, so.

00:14:49:14 - 00:14:49:24
Shane Tecklenburg
But.

00:14:49:24 - 00:14:51:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Once I did, that was.

00:14:52:02 - 00:14:53:02
Shane Tecklenburg
The only thing I had.

00:14:53:02 - 00:14:57:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Ever done or only training I'd ever been to where I.

00:14:57:08 - 00:14:58:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Could not wait to get.

00:14:58:18 - 00:15:03:10
Shane Tecklenburg
There in the morning to learn more. And when it was over, at the end of the day, I was bummed that.

00:15:03:12 - 00:15:05:16
Shane Tecklenburg
The end of the day came already right? I couldn't wait.

00:15:05:16 - 00:15:06:26
Shane Tecklenburg
To get back there the next morning.

00:15:06:28 - 00:15:11:27
Shane Tecklenburg
So, you know, it was general. it was general automotive theory, which, you know, I had a pretty.

00:15:11:27 - 00:15:22:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Fair amount of that, again, with a dad as an auto shop teacher. But you never you never really learn at all until you go to some sort of some sort of schooling where they teach, you know, from one end to the other. And what I really learned was.

00:15:23:04 - 00:15:25:04
Shane Tecklenburg
I knew what EFI was from the.

00:15:25:05 - 00:15:27:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Extent that I had played with that Briggs and Stratton engine.

00:15:27:19 - 00:15:28:04
Shane Tecklenburg
But I didn't really.

00:15:28:04 - 00:15:30:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Understand the strategy. And.

00:15:30:17 - 00:15:31:00
Shane Tecklenburg
you know, all the.

00:15:31:00 - 00:15:33:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Sensors and all the things involved with an actual street driven.

00:15:33:15 - 00:15:34:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Car.

00:15:34:23 - 00:15:41:06
Shane Tecklenburg
so that was a huge education. And then an offshoot of that was we went to work in, you know, in a shop. And so basically into this class.

00:15:41:23 - 00:15:43:14
Shane Tecklenburg
anybody that was any good.

00:15:43:16 - 00:15:46:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Pretty much ended up with a job offer from whatever shop they're working in.

00:15:46:20 - 00:15:48:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And me and two other guys.

00:15:48:14 - 00:15:51:20
Shane Tecklenburg
we're working for this guy in, Redondo Beach, and he had.

00:15:51:22 - 00:15:52:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Two shops.

00:15:52:15 - 00:15:57:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Across street from each other. And so what he does, he hired all three of us to go run the shop across the street.

00:15:57:28 - 00:15:59:25
Shane Tecklenburg
And he put.

00:15:59:28 - 00:16:05:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Basically a manager in there to run the shop. But we were in charge of the everything that shop needed to do.

00:16:05:06 - 00:16:06:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, these guys.

00:16:06:22 - 00:16:08:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Were probably in their mid 50s, I'm.

00:16:08:18 - 00:16:09:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Guessing, or maybe.

00:16:09:23 - 00:16:20:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Maybe they were early 50s or whatever. Then, you know, I was 20. I absorbed all of the electronics, diagnostics, all of that stuff. They took it in, but really they were more.

00:16:20:18 - 00:16:22:09
Shane Tecklenburg
In the oil change.

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Shane Tecklenburg
And brake.

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Shane Tecklenburg
Job.

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Shane Tecklenburg
You know, mentality. And that's what they'd always done.

00:16:25:25 - 00:16:27:22
Shane Tecklenburg
And they understood the other stuff, but they didn't.

00:16:27:22 - 00:16:28:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Really want to do.

00:16:28:06 - 00:16:28:24
Shane Tecklenburg
It.

00:16:28:26 - 00:16:46:24
Shane Tecklenburg
So I'm like, look I will take every know start drivability, you know, have to get the scanner out. Anything that I want I want all of that. You guys can have. I didn't want to do brake jobs or oil changes. To me, that was just wasting time. So they took all of that and I took everything else. And so I got pretty good because I was doing a lot of it.

00:16:46:29 - 00:16:56:18
Shane Tecklenburg
And then obviously our boss recognized that. So he's sending everything from here. So now I'm doing two shops worth of diagnostics and drivability and, you know, check engine lights on and.

00:16:56:21 - 00:16:57:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Any anything that.

00:16:57:16 - 00:17:00:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Comes in. It's a problem related to the computer I'm in charge of.

00:17:00:11 - 00:17:03:19
Shane Tecklenburg
So then what happens is they do.

00:17:03:19 - 00:17:13:04
Shane Tecklenburg
The same class all over again the next year. But this time it's through Nissan USA. And so now the deal is you're going to go through the class, you're going to be placed in a dealership.

00:17:13:09 - 00:17:15:28
Shane Tecklenburg
A Nissan dealership, and then ultimately end.

00:17:15:28 - 00:17:19:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Up with a job at a dealership. So the teacher that taught.

00:17:19:05 - 00:17:26:13
Shane Tecklenburg
The class asked if I wanted to come back, go through the class as his teacher's assistant. If you want, and.

00:17:26:13 - 00:17:31:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Then get placed in a Nissan dealership. And it seemed like a a no brainer. They're going to pay.

00:17:31:13 - 00:17:31:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Me to.

00:17:31:26 - 00:17:36:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Go back to the same school that I loved going through already for a second time, but I'm gonna get paid this time.

00:17:37:00 - 00:17:37:27
Shane Tecklenburg
And then in the end, I'm.

00:17:37:27 - 00:17:43:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Going to go work at a Nissan dealership. This is I mean, what could be better? But what we found out, or what I found out.

00:17:43:18 - 00:17:46:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Was that when you go work at a dealership, it is.

00:17:46:29 - 00:18:03:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Entirely seniority based. It's not merit based. So I don't care if you know how to do diagnostics and fix the cars that are coming in with these problems, you're changing oil or doing brakes for five years. The guy that's been here 30 years that doesn't know shit because he hasn't seen anything with a computer on it ever, right?

00:18:03:29 - 00:18:18:17
Shane Tecklenburg
He's in charge of doing all that. Then if you know the answer to bad, you're going to wait your turn in line. So in the end, I ended up going to work for my dad's company. So it ended up being a good thing. I started man in the telephone in 94. He sold the company and snap on a 96.

00:18:19:00 - 00:18:36:07
Shane Tecklenburg
I stayed with them until 2001, and I finally just had enough of corporate America. My dad ran it till 99. It was a small, dynamic company. Like this would be, you know, one guy in charge. You went to the boss with your idea. He either said, that's a good idea, it's a bad one, but you got your answer and you moved on.

00:18:36:09 - 00:18:43:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And when Snap-On took over, it was, you know, we've got to have meetings to figure out which light bulbs we're going to replace. I mean, it's just a joke.

00:18:43:19 - 00:18:45:08
Shane Tecklenburg
So,

00:18:45:10 - 00:18:48:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, I left there in 2001, September.

00:18:49:24 - 00:18:52:28
Shane Tecklenburg
right after 911, actually, through the.

00:18:52:28 - 00:19:12:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Process of doing this, Briggs and Stratton. And then ultimately I built this little dragster with and we took this fuel injection and put it on a two stroke, 250 dirt bike engine and then a CR 500. And so we needed bigger injectors than what we had with the Briggs and Stratton, and the same business park that my dad's original company was in was the same business park Motec was in.

00:19:12:28 - 00:19:18:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Wow. Right. So when it came time to need bigger injectors, we went over.

00:19:18:18 - 00:19:33:18
Shane Tecklenburg
To Motec and and bought bigger injectors. At that time, we bought a hundred pounder and 96 pound an hour Rochester. That was the biggest thing you could get your hands on. That was a Indy injector, right? It's like, ooh, that thing's special. But. So we bought one of those. but that gave me the introduction to the guys at Motec.

00:19:33:18 - 00:19:50:07
Shane Tecklenburg
And then, I also had another friend of mine who went to work at Motec was a Volkswagen technician guy named Joe Hulett. So Joe goes over and he works for Motec for, I don't know, five years or something. And from time to time, you know, he would come by my shop and say, you know.

00:19:50:10 - 00:19:51:10
Shane Tecklenburg
If you ever want a job over there.

00:19:51:10 - 00:20:10:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Let me know. So 2001 rolls around, my dad's like, look, instead of going to working on street cars, why don't you go try doing something different? Like, why don't you go see if Motec is hiring or something like that, go do something other than just work on cars, because I know if you start doing that, that'll be all you ever do, right?

00:20:10:19 - 00:20:13:04
Shane Tecklenburg
So I said, okay. So I went over to Motec.

00:20:13:06 - 00:20:14:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Talked to Joe.

00:20:14:16 - 00:20:21:05
Shane Tecklenburg
got reintroduced to all those guys over there, and they were looking for someone to come and do tuning. So I said, you know, do you have an experienced in tuning? Well.

00:20:21:08 - 00:20:21:17
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I.

00:20:21:17 - 00:20:35:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Had tuned my brakes a Stratton I had built, I bought a 68 Chevelle and 96 put every conceivable small block Chevy combination in it. 283 (302) 307-3053 27 three.

00:20:35:15 - 00:20:42:18
Shane Tecklenburg
5383 402406. so anyway, I had, I had run most of those.

00:20:42:18 - 00:20:50:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Engines on the engine dyno. We knew something with an engine. Dino and I would just go pay to go up on the dyno for a day and tune the thing just so I could understand it.

00:20:50:10 - 00:20:59:16
Shane Tecklenburg
So I basically told him, yeah, I got five years tuning experience. then in the end, they hired me. I mean, took me six weeks.

00:20:59:16 - 00:21:04:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Of begging basically for a job. And it's funny because,

00:21:04:02 - 00:21:04:18
Shane Tecklenburg
My boss.

00:21:04:18 - 00:21:06:19
Shane Tecklenburg
That ultimately hired me, Jim Mundt.

00:21:07:18 - 00:21:09:21
Shane Tecklenburg
you know, again, I showed up there.

00:21:09:21 - 00:21:12:25
Shane Tecklenburg
I filled out an application, I made phone calls. I showed up.

00:21:12:25 - 00:21:18:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Unannounced. I figured out places that he was going to be to tune.

00:21:18:21 - 00:21:20:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Engines, and I would just show up there.

00:21:20:29 - 00:21:21:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Right?

00:21:21:05 - 00:21:28:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Because I had friends until they were. Oh, somebody coming from Motec to tuners. Well, got. I just show up so I'd be standing there when they got there, like, man, you're kind of like all over.

00:21:28:09 - 00:21:29:03
Shane Tecklenburg
So I'm pretty sure a.

00:21:29:03 - 00:21:33:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Part of it was just, if the dude's going to be hanging around this much, we might as well give him a job.

00:21:35:10 - 00:21:36:12
Shane Tecklenburg
so for the most.

00:21:36:12 - 00:21:43:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Part, I'm begging for this job for six weeks, and, he finally tells me I want to come down. We'll go to lunch tomorrow.

00:21:44:04 - 00:21:46:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Fine. That afternoon.

00:21:46:10 - 00:21:48:17
Shane Tecklenburg
I find EFI technologies.

00:21:48:19 - 00:21:49:25
Shane Tecklenburg
EFI technologies is.

00:21:49:28 - 00:21:55:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Kind of a competitor at that time. Anyways, of Motec, they're they're located in Torrance, California, and relatively local.

00:21:55:20 - 00:21:56:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Not as local.

00:21:56:07 - 00:21:59:12
Shane Tecklenburg
As Honey Beach for a for a Huntington Beach guy.

00:21:59:14 - 00:22:02:11
Shane Tecklenburg
But still pretty local. So I'm like,

00:22:02:16 - 00:22:23:24
Shane Tecklenburg
So I drive over, try the same deal. Right? I drive over there and they're like, you can't come in here now. You can't just show up unannounced. You got to have a meeting. And I'm like, well, I just drove from Orange County. Like, we don't care. You can't come in without a meeting. Fine. So, I tell them, look, I'm looking for a job and, fill out an application, and I leave, and then they call me later that afternoon, and they go, hey, we want.

00:22:23:24 - 00:22:25:00
Shane Tecklenburg
You to come and.

00:22:25:02 - 00:22:29:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Talk to us. Like, when can you come white? Tomorrow. Now. I'm already going to talk to Jim. So I'm like, well.

00:22:29:15 - 00:22:30:15
Shane Tecklenburg
I'll, how.

00:22:30:15 - 00:22:43:04
Shane Tecklenburg
About I how about I come and talk to you in the morning like 9:00? Yeah, that sounds fine. So I go over there for an interview with these guys. Sorry, I got it backwards. So I went and talked to Jim at lunch. So Jim's, like, offers me the job and I'm like.

00:22:43:04 - 00:22:57:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Can I think about it? And I'm thinking, is he going to just say, can you think about it? Like after asking me for six weeks for a job and now I give you the job and you want to think about it? But he was cool. He's like, yeah, okay, no problem. Because now I've got this.

00:22:57:05 - 00:23:14:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Interview lined up the next morning at EFI. So next morning I go to EFI and I mean, short story, I didn't like the attitude of the guys. They pretty much thought I was a joke, so it didn't take me very long. I mean, they're in the middle of it. I'm like, well, if you guys don't have any more questions, I got another meeting to go to, you know, and I'm I get the parking lot, I call Jim and I'm like, when can I start?

00:23:15:01 - 00:23:17:14
Shane Tecklenburg
All right. So that was it, you know. And, and.

00:23:17:14 - 00:23:19:02
Ken Bjonnes
What happened with those guys.

00:23:19:05 - 00:23:25:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Other I. Yeah. Well, I think they're still kickin. Still selling, still selling parts. One of them, one of the guys that worked.

00:23:25:13 - 00:23:28:07
Shane Tecklenburg
There at the time, that was in there on the meeting, I ended.

00:23:28:07 - 00:23:30:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Up, you know, he was a he was.

00:23:30:20 - 00:23:32:20
Shane Tecklenburg
A support guy for EFI.

00:23:32:22 - 00:23:34:10
Shane Tecklenburg
And I had no.

00:23:34:15 - 00:23:39:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Time for that guy. I mean, I, I don't really care now. It's been so long in a matter. But I definitely hated that guy. I mean.

00:23:39:27 - 00:23:43:22
Shane Tecklenburg
At one point he went out on his own and I told him, I.

00:23:43:22 - 00:23:46:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Told my boss, if you make that guy a Motec dealer, I will fucking.

00:23:46:05 - 00:23:49:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Quit. That's so that's who he is, too.

00:23:49:18 - 00:23:53:15
Shane Tecklenburg
But he sort of made himself infamous and.

00:23:53:18 - 00:23:54:11
Shane Tecklenburg
He he sort of.

00:23:54:16 - 00:23:56:04
Shane Tecklenburg
He took care of himself. I didn't have to do it.

00:23:56:04 - 00:23:59:14
Ken Bjonnes
So now, you said you had gone to college for a real short time.

00:23:59:14 - 00:23:59:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Short time.

00:24:00:02 - 00:24:01:21
Ken Bjonnes
But then pretty much. Yeah, that was it.

00:24:01:25 - 00:24:02:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Because once. Yeah.

00:24:02:27 - 00:24:03:09
Ken Bjonnes
You know.

00:24:03:11 - 00:24:05:28
Shane Tecklenburg
So which can blame my dad for that.

00:24:05:29 - 00:24:06:08
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah.

00:24:06:09 - 00:24:06:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Believe it or not.

00:24:06:28 - 00:24:16:21
Ken Bjonnes
I find that kind of not kind of very interesting because it's a very technical field you're entering and, you know, heavy math and it's not maybe the most complex math.

00:24:16:24 - 00:24:20:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Now. So the reason it worked for me in my.

00:24:20:15 - 00:24:22:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Path is not the right path for most people.

00:24:22:27 - 00:24:35:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Because it's taken me since I was 15 to be able to do what I can do now. Right? So you can do it without the education, but you got to be.

00:24:35:00 - 00:24:39:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Extremely dedicated and focused and nothing can distract you.

00:24:39:02 - 00:24:41:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And that's that's what it's been. The other.

00:24:41:05 - 00:24:44:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Thing was, once I went to work at Motec.

00:24:44:03 - 00:24:46:06
Shane Tecklenburg
I had the advantage of.

00:24:46:06 - 00:24:47:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Working with a guy who.

00:24:47:13 - 00:24:48:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Still owns.

00:24:48:19 - 00:24:52:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Motec USA now, Simon Wagner. He's one of the partners.

00:24:52:06 - 00:24:52:24
Shane Tecklenburg
But at that.

00:24:52:24 - 00:25:14:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Time we were both just employees. Well, Simon had the education that I never had, and I had all the experience that he never had. And so we were a great pair. We both wanted to understand, you know, the information wasn't free flowing out of Australia into the US. On how the ECU was supposed to work, how the software 100% worked, and what it was intended to be used for.

00:25:14:19 - 00:25:18:01
Shane Tecklenburg
so you had to really pick.

00:25:18:03 - 00:25:28:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Your questions carefully. If you ask too stupid of a question, you kind of got browbeat about asking a dumb question. So you learned, like, let's make sure we're not asking something stupid when we finally need to ask.

00:25:28:11 - 00:25:31:26
Shane Tecklenburg
But the advantage of that was that it forced us to.

00:25:31:27 - 00:25:33:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Sort of basically self train.

00:25:34:02 - 00:25:36:26
Shane Tecklenburg
and so what would happen is, you know, we would come up with a.

00:25:36:26 - 00:25:51:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Scenario about something. I mean, the most obvious one was the air temp comp, right? Air temp compensation. There was this random air temp compensation table that came with the ECU, and we just assumed that it must be right because it came out of Australia.

00:25:52:06 - 00:25:53:21
Shane Tecklenburg
but it we could never make.

00:25:53:21 - 00:25:54:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Sense of it.

00:25:54:05 - 00:25:55:06
Shane Tecklenburg
At some point we.

00:25:55:06 - 00:25:58:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Stumbled across the ideal gas law and realized.

00:25:58:18 - 00:25:59:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Oh.

00:25:59:09 - 00:26:02:06
Shane Tecklenburg
The map comp is the pressure part of the ideal gas law.

00:26:02:10 - 00:26:13:13
Shane Tecklenburg
So the air temp comp must also be related. Except this curve that we had didn't match. We kept trying to, you know, work it out. So eventually one day I happened to have this.

00:26:13:15 - 00:26:30:19
Shane Tecklenburg
This Volkswagen sand rail car. Yeah. Sand, real Sand Dragster, twin turbo. I think base water to air intercooler. I can't maybe it was air to air. So we have the standard air temp temp compensation. And as this thing goes down the racetrack you can see the mixture get richer. Right. Because air densities dropping.

00:26:30:19 - 00:26:37:20
Shane Tecklenburg
So it's getting richer by the exact amount. Right. That if you put the correct.

00:26:37:20 - 00:26:41:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Compensation in for the ideal gas law would fix it. So we start spot checking it.

00:26:42:03 - 00:26:43:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Like what would it be if.

00:26:43:01 - 00:26:46:13
Shane Tecklenburg
It was here? Oh shit, that would take 4% out. Well, that would put it right on the mixture rate.

00:26:46:20 - 00:26:47:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay. What would it be if it was here?

00:26:47:27 - 00:26:50:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Well that would take 7% out. Well that would put it right on the mixture.

00:26:50:03 - 00:26:54:04
Shane Tecklenburg
And you know what? This curve needs to be the shape that it needs to be to match.

00:26:54:04 - 00:26:57:03
Shane Tecklenburg
The ideal gas law. And then this stuff will all start working a lot better anyway.

00:26:57:06 - 00:27:01:10
Shane Tecklenburg
So that was something that between him and I, we worked out over.

00:27:01:10 - 00:27:03:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Probably a month, month and a half, but.

00:27:03:00 - 00:27:07:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Once we did that, then it was like, okay, this is all.

00:27:07:06 - 00:27:08:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Understandable.

00:27:08:13 - 00:27:13:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Predictable. We don't trust what's in the ECU that came out of Australia. Unless someone tells.

00:27:13:02 - 00:27:14:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Us a good reason to trust.

00:27:14:02 - 00:27:16:16
Shane Tecklenburg
It, we assume that, you know, it.

00:27:16:16 - 00:27:23:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Needs to be based on something that we know or physics. It's not just magic. And that was like the turning point. And, you know, him and I working.

00:27:23:10 - 00:27:28:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Together for at least for me, I, I imagine for him if you asked him, but.

00:27:28:09 - 00:27:30:05
Shane Tecklenburg
For me 100%, I mean, that.

00:27:30:05 - 00:27:31:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Was the boost in.

00:27:31:27 - 00:27:33:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Knowledge that I needed to get to the next level.

00:27:33:29 - 00:27:54:19
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And do you think you would have got there on your own? Like like you said, you had him with the education and you with the practical knowledge to put the whole package together. You know, it's it's it's interesting to look back on certain crossroads and you go, what if I would have went to EFI technologies? What would I have been doing now?

00:27:54:19 - 00:28:00:00
Ken Bjonnes
You know. So I think it's a lot like you owe a lot to the people you run into hundreds.

00:28:00:01 - 00:28:05:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Or I mean, people ask me all the time why I'm so loyal to Motec, but that's why. I mean, they gave me my chance. Yeah.

00:28:05:06 - 00:28:10:22
Ken Bjonnes
I find it interesting that, you know, and I guess it was early on, like how old of a company was Motec at that point?

00:28:10:25 - 00:28:12:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, I think Motec basically.

00:28:12:29 - 00:28:13:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Started.

00:28:13:11 - 00:28:15:24
Shane Tecklenburg
In the mid 90s. Okay. In the USA.

00:28:15:24 - 00:28:18:22
Shane Tecklenburg
I think the distributorship started in the late 90s.

00:28:18:25 - 00:28:19:20
Shane Tecklenburg
97.

00:28:19:20 - 00:28:21:27
Shane Tecklenburg
98, 99, something like that. Maybe 2000.

00:28:21:29 - 00:28:22:10
Shane Tecklenburg
No.

00:28:22:16 - 00:28:25:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Was earlier, not 99, 95, 96, probably in the US.

00:28:25:09 - 00:28:27:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So your 1999, 1990.

00:28:27:12 - 00:28:29:21
Shane Tecklenburg
One company that forms in Australia.

00:28:29:23 - 00:28:36:01
Shane Tecklenburg
It's interesting the way those two meet Jim was a Volkswagen tech

00:28:36:03 - 00:28:48:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Then was selling the tools that you need to diagnose constant ses Bosch fuel injection systems. They needed a bunch of weird adapters because it was all European fittings, and no one here had them. So he used to drive around with.

00:28:48:25 - 00:28:50:03
Shane Tecklenburg
A a tool.

00:28:50:03 - 00:28:59:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Kit to be able to test those systems, and was trying to sell it out of the back of his Volkswagen van. Right. And he went to a Bosch seminar. I want to say in Australia.

00:28:59:09 - 00:29:00:19
Shane Tecklenburg
And he gets seated next.

00:29:00:19 - 00:29:13:11
Shane Tecklenburg
To Richard Bendall, who formed Motec Australia along with Richard Abbott. But Richard Ben tells me mainly the guy. So he sits next to Richard Bendall. They get to talking, Richard says. We're looking for a distributor.

00:29:13:11 - 00:29:14:15
Shane Tecklenburg
In the US.

00:29:14:17 - 00:29:18:19
Shane Tecklenburg
And Jim tells him, well, I'm your guy. And that's how Motec USA came about.

00:29:18:23 - 00:29:40:16
Ken Bjonnes
Wow. That's crazy. So, you know, I find it interesting. You know, it obviously Motec. Everybody has a huge, respect for Motec. And, not only the level of their hardware, the knowledge there, but to look back at those times. And it took you to figure out that the airtime comp was just completely wrong. It's interesting to.

00:29:40:18 - 00:29:42:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Listen. They knew and I saw the guys doing this.

00:29:42:15 - 00:29:43:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Stuff on us, but.

00:29:43:06 - 00:29:43:16
Shane Tecklenburg
But the.

00:29:43:16 - 00:29:47:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Knowledge wasn't communicated downstream, right? And so we were downstream.

00:29:47:05 - 00:29:55:15
Shane Tecklenburg
And so but the fact that me and Simon were able to work because before that you just took for granted that it was right and you just. Yeah, I don't know.

00:29:55:15 - 00:29:59:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Why it won't ever, you know, run the same way when the air gets hot and when it gets cold.

00:29:59:07 - 00:30:01:16
Shane Tecklenburg
It must need some. You know, you thought it was some magical.

00:30:01:16 - 00:30:03:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Curve that every engine might need some.

00:30:03:01 - 00:30:04:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And look, if you place.

00:30:04:05 - 00:30:05:29
Shane Tecklenburg
The air temp sensor in the wrong place.

00:30:06:01 - 00:30:16:02
Shane Tecklenburg
That is true. It needs some weird curve, right? But in general, it's the ideal gas law. I mean, that's what we didn't know that we realized, right? You know, then and they said that was huge.

00:30:16:02 - 00:30:17:09
Shane Tecklenburg
That was a massive again.

00:30:17:13 - 00:30:19:07
Ken Bjonnes
And you said you're tuning for Motec.

00:30:19:07 - 00:30:21:06
Shane Tecklenburg
So yeah. So, so when they.

00:30:21:06 - 00:30:23:03
Ken Bjonnes
Fire Motec because, you know.

00:30:23:03 - 00:30:24:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So back in that day, you were the first.

00:30:24:22 - 00:30:30:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Of all, there wasn't like a whole bunch of dealers. There was some dealers and there was a main tuner, which was George Clarke. And George.

00:30:30:26 - 00:30:33:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Was, probably in his.

00:30:33:21 - 00:30:34:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Early 50s.

00:30:34:15 - 00:30:35:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Then.

00:30:37:00 - 00:30:42:25
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm now in my early 50s. I can understand his cynicism. You get that way as you get older. Right. But so there was that.

00:30:43:15 - 00:30:44:01
Shane Tecklenburg
and.

00:30:44:01 - 00:30:48:23
Shane Tecklenburg
He was Jim's buddy from the dealership you worked at, and Jim hired him because, you know, he was a go getter and.

00:30:48:26 - 00:30:56:05
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, but George tuned like, you know, no one told him. No one taught him how. He had to figure it out. And and he.

00:30:56:05 - 00:30:57:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Was working at a time.

00:30:57:08 - 00:30:59:03
Shane Tecklenburg
When, you know, people didn't.

00:30:59:03 - 00:31:02:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Necessarily trust aftermarket.

00:31:02:07 - 00:31:04:07
Shane Tecklenburg
EFI systems. All right.

00:31:04:09 - 00:31:14:15
Shane Tecklenburg
They liked carburetors and distributors because you can drop them in and they just run. And you want me to put the CFI system on, and it's supposed to be better, but why does it take three days to fucking make it run on the dyno before we can even make a pull.

00:31:14:17 - 00:31:21:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. Because because he is literally punching the stuff in like a piece at a time. He t he didn't have the time or the.

00:31:21:00 - 00:31:25:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Luxury to be able to sit down with somebody else and figure out why it needed to be a certain way.

00:31:25:04 - 00:31:28:26
Shane Tecklenburg
He just did until it worked. And then that was what you did.

00:31:28:28 - 00:31:46:16
Shane Tecklenburg
So the short story is he had literally nearly worked himself physically to death. I mean, he was in bad health shape, and that's why they were looking for someone to come in and play second fiddle to him. And that's why they hired me. But because I was young, I didn't have the cynical attitude that I have now. Or at least it wasn't as bad.

00:31:46:18 - 00:31:47:09
Shane Tecklenburg

00:31:47:12 - 00:31:48:20
Shane Tecklenburg
And it was easier to deal with.

00:31:48:20 - 00:31:49:23
Shane Tecklenburg
I pretty quickly.

00:31:49:24 - 00:31:53:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Surpassed him as the number one guy because everyone wanted me and not him.

00:31:53:20 - 00:31:54:05
Ken Bjonnes
Right?

00:31:54:08 - 00:31:56:29
Shane Tecklenburg
So consequently, you don't have to.

00:31:56:29 - 00:31:57:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Be that.

00:31:57:08 - 00:32:02:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Smart if you're every single day of your life tuning something somewhere.

00:32:02:21 - 00:32:03:22
Shane Tecklenburg
In the country.

00:32:03:22 - 00:32:09:11
Shane Tecklenburg
For anybody that owns a Motec, typically what happened is someone, let's say an outboard drag boat.

00:32:09:11 - 00:32:11:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Calls and says, I want to put Motec on this outboard.

00:32:11:22 - 00:32:12:18
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, what do I need?

00:32:12:18 - 00:32:14:11
Shane Tecklenburg
And we would sell them the hardware, sell them.

00:32:14:11 - 00:32:15:20
Shane Tecklenburg
The pieces of.

00:32:16:11 - 00:32:18:25
Shane Tecklenburg
sensors and the piece of wiring harness that you need to make it.

00:32:18:25 - 00:32:20:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Work. And then one of us.

00:32:20:14 - 00:32:25:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Would go out and set it up and program it and calibrate it, and then that was it. Off they went. So that was me.

00:32:25:23 - 00:32:28:03
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I went and then I supported.

00:32:28:19 - 00:32:34:06
Shane Tecklenburg
the Harley-Davidson's in Pro Stock Motorcycle. I did all of the support for Grand Am and IMSa.

00:32:34:09 - 00:32:35:10
Shane Tecklenburg
So in between.

00:32:35:10 - 00:32:37:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Tunings, I mean, there was times when I would.

00:32:37:17 - 00:32:38:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Leave home.

00:32:38:12 - 00:32:44:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And I might not come back. I was going on a four day trip, and I'd go for three weeks before I came back, or times where I would come.

00:32:44:12 - 00:32:44:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Know I.

00:32:44:26 - 00:32:45:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Was coming back.

00:32:45:29 - 00:32:50:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Right? I'd go out, have a suitcase, suitcase packed, leave, come back, swap suitcases.

00:32:50:16 - 00:32:52:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Go back to the airport and fly back out the same day.

00:32:52:24 - 00:32:56:19
Shane Tecklenburg
That's crazy. So I did that for from 2000.

00:32:56:21 - 00:33:00:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I started in 2002. I didn't really know enough in 2000. When I started there in November.

00:33:01:05 - 00:33:03:12
Shane Tecklenburg
probably by the summer.

00:33:03:12 - 00:33:09:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Of 2002, I started to be smart enough to go kind of do this on my own. It's funny. I built an engine. I built a small.

00:33:09:08 - 00:33:10:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Block to be able.

00:33:10:12 - 00:33:18:00
Shane Tecklenburg
To run on the engine dyno to learn how to tune. By the time I ran, that engine already been tuning engines for four years.

00:33:18:02 - 00:33:26:07
Ken Bjonnes
That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, that's like a completely different business model than what Motec has today. Yeah. Did they even do any of that direct?

00:33:26:10 - 00:33:27:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, so, you know, I was a.

00:33:27:10 - 00:33:28:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Different business model in the.

00:33:28:11 - 00:33:30:26
Shane Tecklenburg
US, in Australia. Australia did it the other way.

00:33:30:26 - 00:33:35:24
Shane Tecklenburg
They tried really hard not to go personally out and do any of the tuning jobs. They wanted their.

00:33:35:27 - 00:33:36:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Dealers.

00:33:36:12 - 00:33:36:27
Shane Tecklenburg
To do all of.

00:33:36:27 - 00:33:48:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Them, and then they just wanted to support their dealers. So, you know, it was a different is a different way here. Good for me? they still do some of that. You mean you still have. You can still.

00:33:48:11 - 00:33:49:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Call Motec and have somebody come out, but.

00:33:49:27 - 00:33:51:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You've got a lot more.

00:33:51:18 - 00:33:53:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Special specialists.

00:33:54:03 - 00:33:54:14
Shane Tecklenburg
that.

00:33:54:14 - 00:34:06:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Are distributing Motec that do different job. So it's easier to and almost better to find somebody that knows their particular part of the industry and have them take care of it, than it is for Motec to try and come out and learn.

00:34:06:04 - 00:34:07:22
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, what's needed or whatever.

00:34:07:22 - 00:34:11:15
Shane Tecklenburg
They still do plenty of stuff in-house, but it's, it's not not like it was back.

00:34:11:15 - 00:34:17:02
Ken Bjonnes
Then, but it's a little bit more like a typical, a little bit more like the Australian model was. Or it's dealer.

00:34:17:02 - 00:34:17:15
Shane Tecklenburg
They're truck.

00:34:17:16 - 00:34:32:14
Shane Tecklenburg
They're trying to be. I don't know that the Australian model works perfectly here. And that was always, you know, a bit of a confusion for the Australians trying to understand why. Look, you're in a market that's ten times the size of ours. Why are you not selling ten times as much stuff? That's like it's a it's a little different here.

00:34:32:14 - 00:34:36:28
Shane Tecklenburg
It's not quite the same. I mean, one thing that they had over there was, you know, there wasn't a choice.

00:34:37:00 - 00:34:37:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Right?

00:34:37:08 - 00:34:42:19
Shane Tecklenburg
It's just a lot easier to sell into a market when there's no choice than it is to sell in a market where there's a hundred choices. Yeah.

00:34:42:19 - 00:34:48:20
Ken Bjonnes
So at that time frame, in especially the early days, who were the main competitors to Motec?

00:34:48:22 - 00:34:50:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, Motec is sort of.

00:34:50:17 - 00:34:53:02
Shane Tecklenburg
I would say back in those days, I mean, you had the early days was.

00:34:53:02 - 00:34:54:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Like electric motor.

00:34:54:05 - 00:34:54:12
Shane Tecklenburg
From the.

00:34:54:12 - 00:34:55:18
Shane Tecklenburg
US.

00:34:55:20 - 00:35:07:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And you had some early haltech stuff. But Motec in those days was really cutting edge. I mean, they're the first ones with a 3D map and this is in DOS days, you know? Yeah. and so there was a lot of.

00:35:07:12 - 00:35:10:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Features that, that thing that is, that are completely.

00:35:10:27 - 00:35:24:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Standard. Now, every single engine management system on the market can do now. But back then that was like pretty high level stuff to be able to do with a non factory or some sort of, you know, Bosch or some magical engine management system.

00:35:24:17 - 00:35:25:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. something that a.

00:35:25:24 - 00:35:34:02
Shane Tecklenburg
A relatively normal person could get their hands on. and they were doing it back in the 90s. So, they were ahead of they were had a game for a while.

00:35:34:05 - 00:35:37:18
Ken Bjonnes
So you're obviously doing, you're basically tuning anything and everything.

00:35:37:24 - 00:35:38:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So look, I.

00:35:38:09 - 00:35:45:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Have a predisposition towards drag racing because that's my background. But I couldn't just say, well, I only want to work on drag cars, right. You know, I was anything.

00:35:45:26 - 00:35:52:13
Ken Bjonnes
So look at your background from, support tuning side. Or did you do drag racing yourself?

00:35:52:15 - 00:36:01:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. No, I did drag racing myself. The part of the story that I skipped with the Briggs was that I ultimately paralleled that with a little miniature dragsters before Junior dragsters existed.

00:36:01:11 - 00:36:01:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And that.

00:36:01:29 - 00:36:03:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Ultimately ended up with.

00:36:03:17 - 00:36:04:15
Shane Tecklenburg
A.

00:36:04:17 - 00:36:19:14
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, it's okay. So the quick detour is when I realized that my little Briggs engine was never going to be able to go on my go kart. It was about when I was 16, I got a job at the gas station, pumping gas, sitting in the little booth, taking people's credit cards. Well, I'm drawing on the back of the credit card slips.

00:36:19:16 - 00:36:25:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Little like hand drawings of a layout for a little miniature scale dragster, right, with the motorcycle engine in it.

00:36:25:14 - 00:36:27:01
Shane Tecklenburg
And so I get I get enough.

00:36:27:01 - 00:36:42:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Money saved up. I go buy a bunch of tubing, and I start trying to build this dragster chassis. Well, I'd never done anything but stick arc weld. And so I've got this 049 wall, you know, one inch mild steel tubing. And I take the stick arc welder and promptly burn a big hole in it. Right. And it's like, oh shit, I might have to do something else.

00:36:42:04 - 00:36:49:17
Shane Tecklenburg
So I basically taught myself how to gas weld, and you could see where I started and where I finished, because it was definitely.

00:36:49:17 - 00:36:51:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Crap at the beginning. And it wasn't me.

00:36:51:02 - 00:36:58:02
Shane Tecklenburg
It was less crap at the end. But, you know, I also like, you know, ran out of money. So then I started getting pieces of conduit and making it out of conduit. I mean, it wasn't.

00:36:58:05 - 00:36:58:23
Shane Tecklenburg
It wasn't anything.

00:36:58:23 - 00:37:03:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Pretty. But my dad again could see like, okay, he's obviously going to do this, I'm going to help him.

00:37:03:13 - 00:37:09:23
Shane Tecklenburg
So the first thing we started with was a, someone gave me a, I was going to put the little blown Briggs and Stratton in it.

00:37:09:26 - 00:37:24:15
Shane Tecklenburg
But someone gave me a two cylinder, two stroke snowmobile engine, so I decided to put that in instead. So I back half that again and put that it set that engine all up. and then when I started, it, went to run it. I didn't realize that there was a.

00:37:24:16 - 00:37:25:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Shaft.

00:37:25:16 - 00:37:33:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Between the engine and the track on a snowmobile. That basically was a gear reduction. so I'm going straight off the crank, right to the axle, and, and all that'll do is flip the clutch.

00:37:33:11 - 00:37:36:09
Shane Tecklenburg
But, so at that point.

00:37:36:09 - 00:37:52:17
Shane Tecklenburg
My dad goes, you know what? Just take the motor out of my 250 Yamaha dirt bike and put that in here and we'll, you know, we'll make that work. So I did that and I went and ran it. I think I went 1679 or something like that. My first trip down the dragstrip with it just a normal, y'see, 250 on gas.

00:37:52:19 - 00:37:54:28
Shane Tecklenburg
And then ultimately we adapted.

00:37:54:28 - 00:38:12:03
Shane Tecklenburg
The fuel injection to it, started running it on methanol, started running it on nitro, started blowing it up all the time like a nitro engine does, and got sick of that and went and bought a KR 500 and then took the motor out of the CR 500. Now we could run that on alcohol and make twice the power we could ever make on Nitro with the 250 plus it'd live.

00:38:12:05 - 00:38:13:25
Shane Tecklenburg
That was quick.

00:38:13:25 - 00:38:21:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Enough to go low 12.25 mile at just over 100 miles an hour. So my dad, this is my junior year in high school.

00:38:21:13 - 00:38:22:28
Ken Bjonnes
And this is in the chassis you built. This is a.

00:38:22:28 - 00:38:25:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Chassis I built that, you know, with conduit. Conduit express. If you.

00:38:25:17 - 00:38:30:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Want to. So, he's like, look, if you crash.

00:38:30:22 - 00:38:49:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Something bad's going to happen, and I will never hear the end of it from your mom. So here's the deal. You get straight A's, I will sponsor you a Healey arc, and we'll build a real version of this car with chrome Holley tubing. And, you know, all the right stuff to the safety spec, whatever. So I got straight A's, I got the Healey arc, and we built a newer version of that.

00:38:49:14 - 00:39:05:23
Shane Tecklenburg
And it was basically a miniature, again, a miniature version of a real car. And that was it. That one was a magnesium body and magnesium bracket. Three titanium bolts, 4130 Chrome Molly. The right size tubing and the spec was out of the MHRA. Safety safety specs for the rulebook for the ET that we're trying to run.

00:39:05:25 - 00:39:10:11
Ken Bjonnes
So is this stuff that you're running like at a race or just like a test and tune kind of thing or.

00:39:10:11 - 00:39:11:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So there's this.

00:39:11:00 - 00:39:20:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Track in Carlsbad, California that would pretty much light anything. I mean, if it ran and you signed the form and paid 20 bucks, you can make it pass. So that's how I was able to take the the conduit Express down there.

00:39:20:28 - 00:39:22:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. And, that's.

00:39:22:14 - 00:39:23:07
Ken Bjonnes
What I was wondering.

00:39:23:10 - 00:39:24:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And so this new thing.

00:39:24:12 - 00:39:40:07
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, it was legit. And I had a real, you know, fire suit and helmet and all the safety shit I actually needed. And then they opened a track even closer to us in Terminal Island, and it was an eight mile track at first, and then it would ultimately became quarter mile. We took that thing down there.

00:39:40:09 - 00:39:41:09
Shane Tecklenburg
We the new.

00:39:41:09 - 00:39:46:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Car, we went to Terminal Island, ran a quarter mile. It ran 1160. So that.

00:39:46:12 - 00:39:47:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Is the new.

00:39:47:00 - 00:39:58:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Car. But the same engine that went in the low 12 at 105 and the conduit express right. the new car was lighter and it was just a better car. And then we ultimately started running that on Nitro and start breaking it all the time.

00:39:58:16 - 00:39:59:21
Shane Tecklenburg
And in between.

00:39:59:21 - 00:40:04:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Going to the racetrack, we would run this thing up and down the street next to the shop, mostly on the weekends.

00:40:04:15 - 00:40:05:03
Shane Tecklenburg
and we blow the.

00:40:05:03 - 00:40:20:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Fucker up on this on the street, even just trying to make it run there with the electric fuel injection thing that we were trying to make it work with, too. So in the end we got pissed one day, went down the street, there was some guys that did street bike stuff, said, what's the baddest ass street bike engine you can think of?

00:40:20:21 - 00:40:37:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, that's easy 1100. Great. We'll have one of those. So then we went right straight to the shop, took the motor out, cut the back of the car off, back aft. It, put the GSR 1100 in it went back to the track a month later, the first pass it went 990. that like 122 or something like that.

00:40:37:25 - 00:40:38:15
Ken Bjonnes
That's crazy.

00:40:38:15 - 00:40:41:13
Shane Tecklenburg
And, ultimately we worked on that thing for about.

00:40:41:13 - 00:40:43:13
Shane Tecklenburg
An probably six.

00:40:43:13 - 00:40:46:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Months. We got it to go 982.

00:40:47:05 - 00:40:48:08
Shane Tecklenburg
it's they used to have a.

00:40:48:08 - 00:40:56:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Supercharger kit that they made for the GSR 1100, and we had planned to put the supercharger on it and run it on alcohol and have a blown alcohol dragster.

00:40:56:08 - 00:40:57:10
Shane Tecklenburg
But we had built.

00:40:57:10 - 00:41:05:12
Shane Tecklenburg
This entire thing and thought maybe it'd be better if we kind of stepped into that's going to be a big jump right in and speed. If we put that together, it's gonna make a lot more power.

00:41:05:12 - 00:41:06:24
Shane Tecklenburg
So maybe we just.

00:41:06:24 - 00:41:13:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Put nitrous on it. Even though we hate nitrous, it's easy to get a small amount of it and speed the car up a little at a time. So we went to an.

00:41:13:15 - 00:41:15:28
Shane Tecklenburg
OS, talked to Wadi.

00:41:16:15 - 00:41:34:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Hammam at Noss, and, he set us up with four sets of jets. Like I want to say, let's just say 25 horse 50, 75 and 100. So we go to the track, put the 25 horse jet and think I was 960. Like, wow, that was bitchin. Let's, let's put the next size jet up in it. Right?

00:41:34:24 - 00:41:36:21
Shane Tecklenburg
And it goes 930 I think.

00:41:36:24 - 00:41:39:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay, put the big ones in. So we put.

00:41:39:14 - 00:41:52:06
Shane Tecklenburg
The big ones in. It goes 900 748. So in one day we went from nine and 82, our best ever to 907 148. We're going like 126 or something like that. 982 right. And that was headers.

00:41:52:06 - 00:41:59:03
Shane Tecklenburg
And you know, playing with cams every week, move the cams, change the cam timing, change everything. Yeah. To go from 990 to 9.

00:41:59:03 - 00:42:02:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Hundred 82 and six months, you know, and four mile an hour.

00:42:02:08 - 00:42:02:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah.

00:42:02:18 - 00:42:09:27
Shane Tecklenburg
And then just put these nitrous jets in and one day you're going low nights like wow that's way better. We're doing that from. And forget the blower thing. This is way too easy.

00:42:09:27 - 00:42:13:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. And then they close the track and we ended up, running it at.

00:42:13:17 - 00:42:29:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Local NH Ray track in Bakersfield. But that was a big production compared to what it was to run it at that local track near our house when we could just go anytime we want. And so we ultimately just sort of stopped running. The thing about 90, I ran it at the World Finals. NHK World Finals made exhibition runs in 96.

00:42:29:23 - 00:42:30:10
Shane Tecklenburg
And we might have.

00:42:30:10 - 00:42:35:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Run it in 97 a little bit, but that was about the end of it. And now it's just sitting in the shop on a shelf.

00:42:35:26 - 00:42:42:28
Ken Bjonnes
So did you go down that route because you wanted to build the entire car? Like, why didn't you use just like a regular car?

00:42:43:00 - 00:42:43:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, there wasn't.

00:42:43:28 - 00:42:48:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Anything at that time that was that size. I mean, everything was a real size dragster, so there was no way or.

00:42:49:04 - 00:42:52:18
Ken Bjonnes
No, not dragster wise. I'm talking about like a door car. Like what? Me? Oh, I.

00:42:52:18 - 00:42:54:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Know what I saw. I worked on, I.

00:42:54:16 - 00:42:57:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Worked on some door cars. I worked on some pro models.

00:42:57:24 - 00:42:58:05
Shane Tecklenburg
from.

00:42:58:05 - 00:43:25:02
Shane Tecklenburg
The time when I was 14. One of the guys I worked for, my dad worked for a guy that had a pro mod in Southern California. And when I, when I turned 17, I started working for a guy. And when I graduated high school, we took his car and him and my best friend toured around the country, a guy named Kirk Koonce, and we took his car to what was the Super Chevy series, at that time, and drove from California to Indianapolis and went to Pennsylvania and Ohio and ran a bunch of races in the Midwest that summer.

00:43:25:05 - 00:43:38:29
Shane Tecklenburg
But my I mean, it was always like, way easier to work on something that didn't have doors in the way. Right? Right. Dragsters got the engine sitting right out there. And so that was what I always envisioned and always wanted. From the time I was a kid, I never wanted a door, car. I don't really want anything now.

00:43:38:29 - 00:43:48:00
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm happy to work on whatever somebody is paying me to work on. But, you know, now, I would say I have an affinity to door cars, but that's just because I've been playing with them for, you know, 15 years now. So.

00:43:48:00 - 00:43:56:17
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. Yeah. So, we'll go back to where you were at with Motec, obviously. How long were you with Motec?

00:43:56:20 - 00:43:57:21
Shane Tecklenburg

00:43:57:24 - 00:44:00:11
Shane Tecklenburg
So I started in 2001, November.

00:44:00:24 - 00:44:02:11
Shane Tecklenburg
I ended up leaving.

00:44:02:11 - 00:44:22:19
Shane Tecklenburg
At the end of 2005. What happens is, you know, anybody that's motivated and pretty good at their job and especially when you're getting the opportunity to parade yourself around in front of all these teams and team owners. And, you know, again, I was doing, support for IMSa in Grand Am and NHRA and off road and off shore and motorcycles and land speed.

00:44:22:19 - 00:44:31:21
Shane Tecklenburg
And I mean, just pick a subject. So, you know, from time to time you get offers from people because they start thinking, well, you know, why am I paying Motec? Let me just hire this guy. But usually they're full of shit.

00:44:31:24 - 00:44:33:18
Shane Tecklenburg
And so in 2000.

00:44:33:20 - 00:44:35:18
Shane Tecklenburg
And of 2005.

00:44:35:21 - 00:44:38:08
Shane Tecklenburg
I had gone to help.

00:44:38:24 - 00:44:43:17
Shane Tecklenburg
a guy named Christian Radio who's running a front wheel drive in sport compact series.

00:44:43:19 - 00:44:47:22
Shane Tecklenburg
And hired me to help them with the tuning, you know.

00:44:47:22 - 00:44:50:00
Shane Tecklenburg
VCU. But I show up at the racetrack and I'm like, man.

00:44:50:00 - 00:44:57:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You don't need I can't fix what's wrong with this with tuning. It's not a you like. Your whole team's like chaos. You know, you need somebody.

00:44:57:16 - 00:44:58:11
Shane Tecklenburg
To, like, manage the team.

00:44:58:11 - 00:45:05:21
Shane Tecklenburg
So I did what I could do, you know? And I showed them what they needed to do. And, you know, we.

00:45:05:21 - 00:45:19:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Made some reasonable progress. And so he said, you know, I could use a guy like you. What do you think about being my crew chief? And I'm like, well, I don't know anything about being a crew chief. You know, he's like, well, I just saw what you did. So, you know, what do you think about how about come work for me next year?

00:45:19:08 - 00:45:27:18
Shane Tecklenburg
So the short story is he put his money where his mouth was and he basically offered me. And, you know, I was also smart enough to know that I didn't want to pigeonhole myself.

00:45:27:20 - 00:45:29:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Into only.

00:45:29:01 - 00:45:35:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Any sport compact when I had had all of this exposure to all these other genres and all these other clients.

00:45:35:22 - 00:45:37:07
Shane Tecklenburg
So I said, look, the only way I want.

00:45:37:07 - 00:45:48:12
Shane Tecklenburg
To do it is if I can be a a private contractor, you know, so I'll come work for you at all the races and that's fine. But I also want to be able to go help somebody in Grand Dam or, you know, any of these other things that I've been doing.

00:45:48:14 - 00:45:50:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. And so he effectively.

00:45:50:24 - 00:45:54:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Was going to pay me twice as much as I was making a Motec. So it made it a pretty easy decision.

00:45:54:25 - 00:45:56:08
Ken Bjonnes
While you could still do the other stuff.

00:45:56:09 - 00:45:57:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. And I can do.

00:45:57:03 - 00:46:08:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Anything on the side on top of that. So I, you know, I went to my boss and I said, look, you know, I'm not trying to tell you this number because I know there's no way you're going to pay me double what you're paying me now. But here's what's going on. And he's like, well, yeah, look, you know.

00:46:08:10 - 00:46:09:29
Shane Tecklenburg
I hate to see you go.

00:46:10:11 - 00:46:15:27
Shane Tecklenburg
you're welcome back any time you want. And, I know you'll never come back because you'll make it.

00:46:15:27 - 00:46:19:18
Shane Tecklenburg
But, you know, I'll make you a dealer.

00:46:20:05 - 00:46:23:15
Shane Tecklenburg
we'll refer clients to you until we can get somebody to replace you.

00:46:23:18 - 00:46:26:02
Shane Tecklenburg
And, Yeah, again, I got.

00:46:26:02 - 00:46:32:13
Shane Tecklenburg
I couldn't have left on any better terms. I mean, look, when I was at Motec and with Motec Australia, too, it was like a big family.

00:46:33:22 - 00:46:34:15
Shane Tecklenburg
and and.

00:46:34:15 - 00:46:36:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So that was 2005.

00:46:36:11 - 00:46:38:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Right? Right. And it's damn.

00:46:38:00 - 00:46:39:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Near 20 years later and it is still the.

00:46:39:27 - 00:46:46:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Same, those same people. And I still have that same family connection, and they still trust me.

00:46:46:05 - 00:46:48:10
Shane Tecklenburg
As, like, I'm an employee of their company still.

00:46:48:10 - 00:46:54:03
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, obviously they don't give me, you know, for information that's reserved for what internal.

00:46:54:03 - 00:46:56:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Structure and particularly now that Bosch owns them. But still.

00:46:56:20 - 00:46:57:01
Shane Tecklenburg
They have.

00:46:57:01 - 00:47:01:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Never treated me any differently in the 20 years that I've been doing this for myself.

00:47:01:19 - 00:47:12:28
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, I was actually going to ask that you brought it up. The whole Bosch thing is that affected that so far. Anything there or they pretty much still operating like they were. They're just owned by Bosch.

00:47:12:28 - 00:47:23:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So I mean, so Bosch, when they came in, that was a big worry. Like, what are they going to do, try and turn Bosch into Motec and Motec into Bosch? But they haven't done that. They in fact, they said, no.

00:47:23:10 - 00:47:27:09
Shane Tecklenburg
We this is this is its own company, its own, and it has its.

00:47:27:09 - 00:47:31:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Own successes for its own reasons, different than what we do.

00:47:31:08 - 00:47:32:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And so what we don't want to.

00:47:32:12 - 00:47:36:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Do is come in and take that over and ruin what that's become. What we want.

00:47:36:13 - 00:47:43:01
Shane Tecklenburg
To do is support it. And you know, what they said made a lot of sense. But but it was like, okay, now show us. Right.

00:47:43:03 - 00:47:47:03
Shane Tecklenburg
And so in the last year they basically have done everything they said they were going to do, which was.

00:47:47:05 - 00:47:49:11
Shane Tecklenburg
We're going to take what we.

00:47:49:11 - 00:47:50:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Can deliver to.

00:47:50:20 - 00:47:53:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Motec because we're Bosch.

00:47:53:11 - 00:47:59:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And and try to enhance what Motec is, but not turn Motec into Bosch. We want Motec to stay what Motec is.

00:48:00:01 - 00:48:00:17
Shane Tecklenburg
We just want.

00:48:00:17 - 00:48:03:02
Shane Tecklenburg
To support it and try and streamline it.

00:48:03:04 - 00:48:04:24
Shane Tecklenburg
And help it grow.

00:48:04:26 - 00:48:07:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Using the Bosch brand. And then, of course, we want to take.

00:48:07:16 - 00:48:09:17
Shane Tecklenburg
What might be good at a Motec and see.

00:48:09:17 - 00:48:10:29
Shane Tecklenburg
If we can enhance the Bosch brand in.

00:48:10:29 - 00:48:11:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Any way.

00:48:11:12 - 00:48:19:14
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask next. you know, I don't know if you have an insight on it, but what would be the motivation for Bosch to buy a Motec to try and pull a little bit of that?

00:48:19:15 - 00:48:21:13
Shane Tecklenburg
This is just my opinion. I mean, I don't know.

00:48:21:16 - 00:48:24:25
Shane Tecklenburg
What their motivation was. There could have been multiple things.

00:48:24:27 - 00:48:26:10
Shane Tecklenburg
But in my mind, Bosch is.

00:48:26:10 - 00:48:31:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Here and Motec is here. Motec has never been an equal to Bosch.

00:48:31:15 - 00:48:32:17
Shane Tecklenburg
With the exception of the.

00:48:32:17 - 00:48:34:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Usability of Motec compared.

00:48:34:04 - 00:48:36:13
Shane Tecklenburg
To Bosch. But technically.

00:48:36:13 - 00:48:50:23
Shane Tecklenburg
How can anyone possibly be better than the people who are inventing and have the knowledge of what the technology is, right that you're trying to control? So in my mind there's Bosch, and then there's everybody else. So Bosch is up here, and Motec fits this segment of the market.

00:48:50:23 - 00:48:52:05
Shane Tecklenburg
That you really can't touch.

00:48:52:10 - 00:48:57:03
Shane Tecklenburg
With that hardware and that product, because it doesn't fit that part of the market. Right.

00:48:57:06 - 00:49:00:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And Motec, right or wrong, is in a.

00:49:00:17 - 00:49:01:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Spot in the market.

00:49:01:15 - 00:49:02:27
Shane Tecklenburg
That's I mean, no.

00:49:02:27 - 00:49:05:04
Shane Tecklenburg
One ever goes to buy a Motec is it's the cheapest thing there is.

00:49:05:08 - 00:49:06:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Right, right. And and may not be the most.

00:49:06:20 - 00:49:12:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Expensive, but it certainly isn't the cheapest. And that almost pre-qualify the clientele. and.

00:49:12:00 - 00:49:13:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So, you know, Motec fits the.

00:49:13:15 - 00:49:15:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Spot in the market where I think.

00:49:15:14 - 00:49:24:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Bosch probably said, what would it take for us to to compete with them at that level? Why wouldn't we just buy them and then we get this part of the market and.

00:49:24:23 - 00:49:34:05
Shane Tecklenburg
We get this part of the market and they don't really compete and we own them both. And so we don't care who you buy from right. They buy by Bosch if that's what's going to fit for your for your project. And if not you do Motec.

00:49:34:07 - 00:49:36:09
Shane Tecklenburg
And you know there was some definitely.

00:49:36:09 - 00:49:38:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Some things that Motec was doing better than.

00:49:38:02 - 00:49:39:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Bosch.

00:49:39:21 - 00:49:45:04
Shane Tecklenburg
But not on a technical level. I don't think Bosch technically has everyone covered. How could they not?

00:49:45:07 - 00:50:11:19
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. So, obviously the whole time of your tuning career, I mean, you worked for Motec, but, after that, you've been a one man band. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, have you ever thought about doing, like. Yeah. I don't know exactly how to ask the question. Not expanding, but, like. Oh, you know, I mean, thousand.

00:50:11:19 - 00:50:12:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Times in.

00:50:12:03 - 00:50:13:13
Ken Bjonnes
Ten years.

00:50:13:15 - 00:50:15:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. I'm not going to be able to do what I'm. Do.

00:50:15:01 - 00:50:17:25
Ken Bjonnes
You want to you want to travel that much? You want to be everywhere.

00:50:17:25 - 00:50:21:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. No, that's I mean that's been a problem because, you know, the thing that I.

00:50:21:18 - 00:50:22:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Didn't realize I was.

00:50:22:15 - 00:50:25:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Doing when I did it was that I was.

00:50:25:04 - 00:50:26:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Making myself the product.

00:50:27:07 - 00:50:27:26
Shane Tecklenburg
and unfortunately.

00:50:27:26 - 00:50:31:28
Shane Tecklenburg
I can't multiply that. Right, right. So it's a fixed line and you can't.

00:50:32:01 - 00:50:33:26
Shane Tecklenburg
You're selling your life. Yeah. And but there's.

00:50:33:26 - 00:50:44:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Only so many hours of your life you can sell. Yeah. so your option is to raise the raise the raise the price until you aren't busy anymore, and then backstroke until you are busy. I mean, that's it.

00:50:45:03 - 00:50:46:03
Shane Tecklenburg
so that's been.

00:50:46:03 - 00:50:48:13
Shane Tecklenburg
An obvious problem.

00:50:48:16 - 00:50:51:13
Shane Tecklenburg
For at least at least ten years.

00:50:51:13 - 00:50:55:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Probably more like 12 or 15 years. But I'm just.

00:50:55:09 - 00:50:57:26
Shane Tecklenburg
I it's very difficult to.

00:50:57:26 - 00:51:02:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Build a good reputation in this industry. It is very easy to destroy it.

00:51:04:00 - 00:51:06:09
Shane Tecklenburg
and I just can't yet.

00:51:06:15 - 00:51:07:27
Shane Tecklenburg
It's not it's not worth it to.

00:51:07:27 - 00:51:11:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Me yet to risk what I built.

00:51:11:04 - 00:51:14:03
Shane Tecklenburg
By farming it out to someone else. And the other thing is that in.

00:51:14:03 - 00:51:14:28
Shane Tecklenburg
This.

00:51:15:00 - 00:51:16:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Segment of the market.

00:51:16:23 - 00:51:21:13
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, when you teach somebody how to do what you're doing.

00:51:21:16 - 00:51:26:05
Shane Tecklenburg
If they're motivated, there's nothing stopping them from doing exactly what I did when I went out on my own.

00:51:26:12 - 00:51:35:05
Ken Bjonnes
Right. And that was my question, you know, do you do you look for that like person to hand off your knowledge to and, you know, unfortunately.

00:51:35:07 - 00:51:35:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Take risk.

00:51:35:27 - 00:51:51:19
Ken Bjonnes
Take a huge risk? I mean, yeah, you know, I've been in that position myself on the stock computer stuff. but the, you know, the stock computer stuff's a lot different. I can't charge huge amounts of money. So for me to make good money, I have to do things in volume. Sure. You know, but yeah.

00:51:51:19 - 00:51:53:19
Shane Tecklenburg
But you have the opportunity with volume. So the way I.

00:51:53:19 - 00:51:56:02
Shane Tecklenburg
See it is, if you do a good job on a.

00:51:56:04 - 00:51:58:07
Shane Tecklenburg
On a specific application, you.

00:51:58:07 - 00:52:01:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Can replicate it. Yeah, right. You can literally dump it into the next.

00:52:01:03 - 00:52:02:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Thing that's the same. The next thing.

00:52:02:06 - 00:52:05:21
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. Basically turn mine into a product where you're is like every, every single.

00:52:05:21 - 00:52:08:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Everything I'm working on is completely custom. One off.

00:52:08:03 - 00:52:11:21
Shane Tecklenburg
And you just almost can't take anything from any, any.

00:52:11:21 - 00:52:15:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Particular one and just stick it in another one without doing a lot of customization.

00:52:15:23 - 00:52:17:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You can take piece parts and pieces.

00:52:17:19 - 00:52:20:06
Shane Tecklenburg
But you can't just take it out of this one and stuff it in that one.

00:52:20:08 - 00:52:26:23
Ken Bjonnes
Now, I think I know the answer to this, but I'm asked, do you ever tune anything non Motec?

00:52:26:25 - 00:52:32:10
Shane Tecklenburg
There have been very, very few times when I have ventured outside the Motec realm for a number of reasons.

00:52:33:12 - 00:52:34:09
Shane Tecklenburg
number one being.

00:52:34:09 - 00:52:37:24
Shane Tecklenburg
What I was referring to earlier about Motec not being the cheapest thing on the market.

00:52:39:07 - 00:52:39:23
Shane Tecklenburg
the people.

00:52:39:23 - 00:52:44:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Who buy Motec, whether they're right or wrong, they buy it because they think it's the best there is.

00:52:44:09 - 00:52:44:22
Shane Tecklenburg

00:52:44:24 - 00:52:51:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And people with that mentality have that same mentality from the front bumper to the rear bumper.

00:52:51:08 - 00:52:53:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And when you show up and you look.

00:52:53:08 - 00:52:56:08
Shane Tecklenburg
At something that they're trying to do or trying to use, sorry, that was my phone.

00:52:56:12 - 00:52:58:26
Shane Tecklenburg
That's a, you know, you might look.

00:52:58:26 - 00:53:05:29
Shane Tecklenburg
At the fuel pump and say that fuel pumps a piece of shit, you need to get something different. And this people go, okay, what's better? We'll just get it. And then it's done.

00:53:06:01 - 00:53:07:06
Shane Tecklenburg
And you have a really good.

00:53:07:06 - 00:53:09:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Platform and a chance to be successful.

00:53:09:14 - 00:53:10:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Because you can look at.

00:53:10:12 - 00:53:10:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Every.

00:53:10:23 - 00:53:13:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Problem around what the issue is.

00:53:13:20 - 00:53:16:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And say we need to address it and it gets addressed and it gets fixed.

00:53:17:02 - 00:53:18:18
Shane Tecklenburg
And the guys that buy the.

00:53:18:18 - 00:53:19:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Systems that are.

00:53:19:24 - 00:53:21:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Affordable.

00:53:21:28 - 00:53:28:27
Shane Tecklenburg
or they buy the system because it's got a good price, even if it's got good functionality. They have that same mentality. Also on the.

00:53:29:00 - 00:53:29:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Front.

00:53:29:08 - 00:53:36:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Bumper to rear bumper, they're finding the cheapest fuel pump, the cheapest fuel system. They're going to find, the cheapest guy they can find, a bolt the motor together.

00:53:36:08 - 00:53:39:14
Shane Tecklenburg
And so you have this, this complex.

00:53:39:26 - 00:53:42:02
Shane Tecklenburg
box of problems.

00:53:42:04 - 00:53:43:03
Shane Tecklenburg
That it doesn't matter.

00:53:43:03 - 00:53:49:11
Shane Tecklenburg
What engine management system you try to put on top of it, you can't be successful because you just have way too many things that are problematic.

00:53:49:15 - 00:54:05:15
Ken Bjonnes
Right? Well, that's a good segue, I think, to talking about your Motec package. Right. Like you don't, you have a specific you're using your own firmware and like, it's it's kind of like not just I'm not sure if somebody has a Motec, you will turn it or does it have to be.

00:54:05:18 - 00:54:06:12
Shane Tecklenburg
No, no, no.

00:54:06:14 - 00:54:08:16
Shane Tecklenburg
It depends what it is. But I mean, you know.

00:54:08:19 - 00:54:10:15
Shane Tecklenburg
A custom solution.

00:54:10:17 - 00:54:21:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Isn't the answer for everything. If you can find something that will do the job. for what they're trying to do, and it doesn't need customization, that's the that's the way to do it, because it's the least amount of work and it's the least amount of expense for the customer.

00:54:21:19 - 00:54:26:03
Shane Tecklenburg
But but for the most part, every top.

00:54:26:03 - 00:54:36:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Level thing that I'm doing, you know, any team that I'm supporting on a multiple multiple event basis, land speed, drag racing, hillclimb.

00:54:36:02 - 00:54:39:00
Shane Tecklenburg
That's all custom firmware.

00:54:39:02 - 00:54:41:28
Shane Tecklenburg
That's been tailored to suit the application.

00:54:42:00 - 00:54:46:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay. And the trouble is, once again, there's no two of these.

00:54:46:09 - 00:54:47:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Things that are the same.

00:54:47:19 - 00:54:50:02
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, there's no way to replicate it unless.

00:54:50:02 - 00:54:52:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Unless you create a piece of of firmware.

00:54:53:02 - 00:55:01:15
Shane Tecklenburg
That is so, you know, top heavy with menu options for shit that you don't even have. I mean, imagine all the things I do it like speak. Right? But I don't need to do.

00:55:01:15 - 00:55:06:27
Shane Tecklenburg
It Bonneville or that I might have on a nitrous problem that I don't have on a Turbo Pro mod or a blown pro mod.

00:55:07:04 - 00:55:22:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Or, you know, any combination of these things. I mean, if you had one piece of firmware to try to do all of that, it would just be this, this heavy, massive pile of crap, you know, that no one would want to use. and so the concept of the M1.

00:55:22:08 - 00:55:24:29
Shane Tecklenburg
When it was invented in about 2006.

00:55:25:06 - 00:55:25:28
Shane Tecklenburg
was to have.

00:55:25:28 - 00:55:27:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Targeted firmware.

00:55:27:13 - 00:55:30:10
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, and the idea and maybe they were a little bit.

00:55:30:12 - 00:55:34:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Misguided with that because it's really hard to actually pull that.

00:55:34:02 - 00:55:34:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Off.

00:55:35:02 - 00:55:36:19
Shane Tecklenburg
and then sell it in any kind of volume.

00:55:36:19 - 00:55:39:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Because people don't need they want.

00:55:39:04 - 00:55:44:21
Shane Tecklenburg
To have to invest that amount of time and knowledge that it takes to be able to create their own firmware. They just want something that works, right? You know?

00:55:44:21 - 00:55:47:00
Shane Tecklenburg
So, that was.

00:55:47:00 - 00:55:52:28
Shane Tecklenburg
The concept. The concept was we're going to build a really awesome piece of hardware, and you're going to write the firmware and it's going to be.

00:55:52:28 - 00:56:00:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Specific to the application. And the advantage for them was that if they're not creating the firmware, then when someone.

00:56:00:16 - 00:56:01:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Wants an upgrade, they.

00:56:01:13 - 00:56:04:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Can't create a bug that screws up someone else. you're writing firmware.

00:56:04:29 - 00:56:10:08
Shane Tecklenburg
For Kenny's car. If Kenny's car's fucked up, his car is not an either. Is is an either is is right.

00:56:10:08 - 00:56:11:03
Shane Tecklenburg
But the.

00:56:11:03 - 00:56:13:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Advantage of the custom firmware for Kenny's car.

00:56:13:06 - 00:56:15:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Is we can make it do exactly.

00:56:15:08 - 00:56:16:28
Shane Tecklenburg
What Kenny's car needs it to do.

00:56:17:01 - 00:56:18:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Right? And it may not work.

00:56:18:07 - 00:56:25:10
Shane Tecklenburg
In that car, because that's that car is not the same, but it doesn't matter. It's tailored specific to what this one is. And so that was the concept of the M1 when it when it first came out.

00:56:25:10 - 00:56:28:15
Ken Bjonnes
So you're doing all that yourself to all the firmware or do you.

00:56:28:15 - 00:56:33:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So I started so the thing was that they wanted to sell these issues. They spent.

00:56:33:17 - 00:56:34:16
Shane Tecklenburg
A lot of time working on.

00:56:34:16 - 00:56:35:14
Shane Tecklenburg
The the.

00:56:35:14 - 00:56:37:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Authoring software that allows.

00:56:37:04 - 00:56:38:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You to write or.

00:56:38:16 - 00:56:39:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Build your own custom.

00:56:39:11 - 00:56:41:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Firmware. And they weren't getting any money.

00:56:41:16 - 00:56:44:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Back from that. and they spent, you know, several years.

00:56:44:19 - 00:56:45:03
Shane Tecklenburg
And they.

00:56:45:03 - 00:56:50:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Wanted to start selling hardware to generate some revenue. So they were telling us, hey, you guys need to sell X and it's like, well.

00:56:50:17 - 00:57:04:28
Shane Tecklenburg
How do we sell them? There's no software. I mean, how do we tell somebody, okay, by the CCU. Well, what does it do? Well, do whatever you want. You know what you want us to do. It'll do that. Like you can't sell it that way. Right? So we said, look, look, what everybody wants is they want. The previous generation of.

00:57:04:29 - 00:57:07:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Motec was the 800, the gold box. Right.

00:57:07:05 - 00:57:17:22
Shane Tecklenburg
And so that thing was massively capable because it was hugely configurable. But it could never do a perfect job because you couldn't get deep enough in the code to make it do it. You could be very creative.

00:57:17:22 - 00:57:20:20
Shane Tecklenburg
And you could get it to do lots of things that it was never intended to do.

00:57:20:22 - 00:57:23:25
Shane Tecklenburg
But it would never do a perfect job. And so the M1.

00:57:23:25 - 00:57:25:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Was the opportunity to be able to do that.

00:57:26:04 - 00:57:34:05
Shane Tecklenburg
but what we told them was like, look what you're what people want. They want the newer, upgraded 800. Give us the 800. Well, for whatever reason, the.

00:57:34:05 - 00:57:42:09
Shane Tecklenburg
M1 could never do what the Em 800 could do, where the user could really customize what was in the firmware. You're sort of stuck with whatever someone delivered because.

00:57:42:09 - 00:57:43:13
Shane Tecklenburg
They intended that to be.

00:57:43:13 - 00:57:47:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Customized when the firmware was built, not by the end user.

00:57:47:10 - 00:57:52:13
Shane Tecklenburg
So they evolved, they ultimately caved, and they wrote.

00:57:52:15 - 00:57:53:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Some general purpose.

00:57:53:28 - 00:57:55:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Firmware. you know.

00:57:55:19 - 00:57:59:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And then all of us that were asking for it, open it and looked at it, went.

00:57:59:11 - 00:58:12:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, this is terrible, right? Because they and they told us it was going to be they said, you don't want us to do that. It's going to be crap. This is not what the M1 supposed to be. It's supposed to be the so thing. But but they wanted us to sell stuff and we said we need this. And so they gave it to us and we got it.

00:58:12:16 - 00:58:16:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And, but,

00:58:16:07 - 00:58:19:25
Shane Tecklenburg
That got me start thinking about doing something custom. And so.

00:58:19:27 - 00:58:21:02
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, even Motec.

00:58:21:02 - 00:58:22:12
Shane Tecklenburg
USA at one point was like, man, can.

00:58:22:12 - 00:58:23:21
Shane Tecklenburg
You if you can.

00:58:23:22 - 00:58:27:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Have a project where you can use an M1 would be great if you could start using it, you know, because.

00:58:27:28 - 00:58:28:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So I had.

00:58:28:15 - 00:58:29:17
Shane Tecklenburg
This car we were doing for the.

00:58:29:17 - 00:58:30:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Middle East.

00:58:30:21 - 00:58:48:03
Shane Tecklenburg
And I had planned to use two M8 hundreds, one for each side of the engine, because I needed enough injector outputs to be able to run a V8 with 16 injectors and eight coils. So I'm like, no problem, I'll just use an M8 hunter for the left side and 800 for the right side. Share the crank sensor, share the cam sensor and everything else.

00:58:48:03 - 00:58:51:03
Shane Tecklenburg
It'll think it's two inline fours. No problem. And I'll use a.

00:58:51:03 - 00:58:52:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Dash because if I can't do.

00:58:52:22 - 00:59:01:27
Shane Tecklenburg
What I want within the M 800, I can certainly do it with to a mate, hundreds and a dash and all of them communicating, you know, back and forth over can. So I went to Motec USA and I said.

00:59:02:00 - 00:59:03:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Want me to use an M1?

00:59:03:01 - 00:59:04:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Here's what you got to do.

00:59:04:16 - 00:59:07:09
Shane Tecklenburg
I want firmware that does this.

00:59:07:09 - 00:59:14:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Because this is what I can already do with an 800 and a dash, and I need a piece of hardware that'll allow me to run this engine.

00:59:14:16 - 00:59:16:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Instead of two ECUs with one ECU.

00:59:17:01 - 00:59:28:02
Shane Tecklenburg
And everything needs to happen inside the ECU. I don't want to have to be using a dash in an easy way to make this work. So here's everything I wanted to do. You guys write me custom firmware to do that, and I'll use an M1 on this project. And so.

00:59:28:08 - 00:59:30:28
Shane Tecklenburg
They did, and we.

00:59:30:28 - 00:59:32:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Put the car together and we started on the car.

00:59:32:17 - 00:59:35:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, kind of a cool thing.

00:59:35:28 - 00:59:39:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Not necessarily at the time, but looking back, it was a good thing.

00:59:39:08 - 00:59:41:06
Shane Tecklenburg
It's very, very difficult to.

00:59:41:06 - 00:59:53:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Define to somebody what you want done. And it's even harder for someone sitting on that side of the table to decipher what you say you want and deliver and have you get it and go, yes, this is exactly what I wanted to do, right?

00:59:53:13 - 00:59:57:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So, the bottom line is that a lot of the things.

00:59:57:09 - 00:59:59:02
Shane Tecklenburg
That I wanted it to do, it didn't do or didn't do.

00:59:59:02 - 01:00:07:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Correctly, but that forced me then to go try to fix them because I'm not a programmer. Right? Right.

01:00:07:04 - 01:00:16:10
Shane Tecklenburg
But I'm in the Middle East trying to make it work. It's time zone difference to the U.S., and maybe you can get the guy on the phone or maybe can't. So I was like, I got to start trying.

01:00:16:13 - 01:00:21:12
Shane Tecklenburg
All right. So I start playing with it. And that's when I started. And so I was probably 2000.

01:00:21:14 - 01:00:31:06
Shane Tecklenburg
I want to say probably 12. So that's 12 years now. And I surely could have learned how to do it a lot quicker had I been able to stop, focus, take training and.

01:00:31:12 - 01:00:34:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Work only on writing firmware right?

01:00:34:15 - 01:00:48:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Let's try to make a living while I was doing that so that wasn't happening. So I had to do it as time allowed. And you know, by doing things that way in a month, you come back and you're like, I can't remember. I gotta go back all through it again. But it's hard to learn something as.

01:00:48:04 - 01:00:50:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Completely as you.

01:00:50:10 - 01:00:53:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Can learn it when you are basically having to learn it from.

01:00:53:04 - 01:00:58:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Scratch, right? You know, you learn the shortcuts. You kind of don't necessarily need to. If you fall in the pitfalls.

01:00:58:14 - 01:00:59:12
Shane Tecklenburg
All the time, pretty.

01:00:59:12 - 01:01:00:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Soon you learn.

01:01:00:07 - 01:01:05:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Why and how to stay away from them instead of just a controller here, I don't know why, but somebody said to do it, so I'm going to do it.

01:01:05:27 - 01:01:06:24
Ken Bjonnes
Right? Right?

01:01:06:27 - 01:01:07:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah.

01:01:07:06 - 01:01:14:21
Ken Bjonnes
So so, is the majority of your training all in person or do you do some remote support?

01:01:14:23 - 01:01:20:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So remote support started in I was talking about.

01:01:20:09 - 01:01:29:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Doing it in 2005 out of, sorry. I had a friend of mine, actually the guy shop who I was going to go work at when I quit working at Snap-On. He said, you know, bring your toolbox.

01:01:29:11 - 01:01:29:23
Shane Tecklenburg
I've got.

01:01:29:23 - 01:01:31:09
Shane Tecklenburg
A day at my shop. Come work here.

01:01:31:09 - 01:01:32:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, the other thing he did.

01:01:32:25 - 01:01:45:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Was, for whatever reason, he was like a systems administrator. And so he had a few clients scattered around the country, and he found this piece of software that he could use to remotely connect to a server in Texas.

01:01:45:29 - 01:01:46:17
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, and do.

01:01:46:17 - 01:01:48:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Whatever he needed to do. And it was.

01:01:48:03 - 01:01:49:17
Shane Tecklenburg
It was something that was very easy to.

01:01:49:17 - 01:01:51:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Use. I think it was called go to my PC.

01:01:52:18 - 01:01:53:03
Shane Tecklenburg
so he told.

01:01:53:03 - 01:01:54:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Me about this and I kind of like, okay.

01:01:54:20 - 01:02:05:29
Shane Tecklenburg
That's cool. And then I started thinking, man, I wonder if you could use that to either tune in engine. Like, I wonder if it'll run a DOS application and like, you know, at that.

01:02:05:29 - 01:02:17:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Time, the internet wasn't necessarily as prevalent as it is now. I'm talking like 2004, 2005. So not everybody had Wi-Fi everywhere. They might have had dial up. So the question was, okay, how fast is this if you use dial up on both ends?

01:02:18:00 - 01:02:19:20
Shane Tecklenburg
So I was thinking.

01:02:19:20 - 01:02:38:03
Shane Tecklenburg
About it from the standpoint of support at Motec. I went to the dyno, I put my engine on the dyno, I went next door to the dyno to the office next door, logged on with dial up in the office next door to the computer that was in the dyno shop, and remote tuned the engine on the dyno from next door.

01:02:38:05 - 01:02:44:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So I'm like, this'll this can work. So I told my kind of mentioned my boss and they, you know, now nobody could really put it go like how.

01:02:44:09 - 01:02:56:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Could that really work. You can't do that. Like how can you can't hear anything, you can't smell anything, can't touch anything. Fast forward, you know, 2 or 3 months I'm working on my own. Well, I'm like, I'm going to do this. So I had some customers in Chicago with Vipers.

01:02:57:06 - 01:02:58:02
Shane Tecklenburg
SVS.

01:02:58:05 - 01:03:03:10
Shane Tecklenburg
So they kept want me to come to Chicago to tune these Vipers. And in 2006, because I had this contract with radio, I really.

01:03:03:10 - 01:03:06:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Couldn't get away to do it.

01:03:06:03 - 01:03:07:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So I told them, like.

01:03:07:23 - 01:03:09:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Here's the deal. I told him about.

01:03:09:06 - 01:03:10:21
Shane Tecklenburg
The remote tuning idea, and they're like.

01:03:11:15 - 01:03:15:26
Shane Tecklenburg
yeah, we need you here. and so, you know, in the end, I basically forced them.

01:03:15:26 - 01:03:17:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I said, look, I'm not coming.

01:03:17:26 - 01:03:19:01
Shane Tecklenburg
So you're either.

01:03:19:01 - 01:03:22:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Getting me remote or you're not getting me at all. Okay, we'll try the remote thing.

01:03:23:02 - 01:03:24:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, shit. You know, it was great about them.

01:03:24:18 - 01:03:41:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Was, you know, like, every dyno session, almost on the face of the earth. Nothing goes the way you expect, right? Something fails in the middle of it. Then you got to stop, and you're waiting for four hours while you go get a starter from somewhere or a battery or who knows, whatever. Wait till tomorrow. Order something from summit Red label.

01:03:41:20 - 01:03:43:10
Shane Tecklenburg
So the disadvantage of me being.

01:03:43:10 - 01:03:45:10
Shane Tecklenburg
On site when that happens is you're paying me to sit there.

01:03:45:10 - 01:03:46:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And do nothing because I can't.

01:03:47:02 - 01:03:47:24
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah.

01:03:47:27 - 01:03:54:23
Shane Tecklenburg
But remotely when that would happen, we'd be like, oh, the fuel pump just died. You need to figure it out. No problem. Your time stops.

01:03:54:23 - 01:03:57:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Call me back when you got it fixed and I'll log back in. We'll start again.

01:03:57:19 - 01:04:00:23
Shane Tecklenburg
So it was great. And they and I could realize.

01:04:00:23 - 01:04:03:18
Shane Tecklenburg
The value in it, and they could realize the value in it. So then it was a matter.

01:04:03:18 - 01:04:08:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Of trying to get other people to allow me to do it, which I, for the first year, basically just forced.

01:04:08:12 - 01:04:09:12
Shane Tecklenburg
People to do it. Like, this.

01:04:09:12 - 01:04:14:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Is how I'm going to do it. I ended up pricing it, you know, based on the.

01:04:14:06 - 01:04:15:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Fact that you weren't having to pay.

01:04:15:23 - 01:04:17:21
Shane Tecklenburg
For an airplane.

01:04:17:23 - 01:04:24:11
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, a rental car in a hotel room for me to come and do it. So I priced it really high per hour, but I only charge while we're actually doing stuff.

01:04:24:13 - 01:04:27:17
Shane Tecklenburg
So now, even if you go to a race, like how many hours.

01:04:27:17 - 01:04:28:07
Shane Tecklenburg
At a race.

01:04:28:07 - 01:04:33:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Am I actually actively tuning, right? Exactly. Maybe on a whole day for hours, let's just say four.

01:04:33:23 - 01:04:35:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Hours out of an eight hour day.

01:04:35:06 - 01:04:35:26
Shane Tecklenburg
So fine, I'm.

01:04:35:26 - 01:04:37:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Going to charge you a ridiculous amount per hour.

01:04:37:24 - 01:04:38:07
Shane Tecklenburg
But in the.

01:04:38:07 - 01:04:38:26
Shane Tecklenburg
End it works.

01:04:38:26 - 01:04:45:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Out because if you brought me to that race, you'd spent, you know, half the money, at least with the airline, the.

01:04:45:07 - 01:04:59:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Hotel and the rental car company, you know. And then I got the other half, so I just, I just priced it that way, and I. And I've sort of kept it that way and it, it caught on, you know, over time. But I would like to think that I was one of the first, you know, to start doing the remote tuning stuff way back in 2006.

01:04:59:24 - 01:05:07:12
Ken Bjonnes
That's also what, you know, what percentage do you think you do remotely versus, on site.

01:05:07:15 - 01:05:16:14
Shane Tecklenburg
So I mean, I look, I do it's so easy to support people. I mean, you know, I don't even want to talk on the phone because, you know, when someone's going, oh, just tell me.

01:05:16:14 - 01:05:18:27
Shane Tecklenburg
What screen to go to. And then you're trying to tell them and they like, oh, I don't.

01:05:18:27 - 01:05:23:15
Shane Tecklenburg
See that button. And no, that's not on my screen, man. Just get this thing on the internet.

01:05:23:15 - 01:05:23:28
Shane Tecklenburg
I can.

01:05:23:29 - 01:05:25:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Save an.

01:05:25:01 - 01:05:26:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Hour's worth of talking on the phone.

01:05:26:19 - 01:05:29:29
Shane Tecklenburg
In 2.5 seconds, right. Because I know what I need to do. So I use.

01:05:29:29 - 01:05:36:21
Shane Tecklenburg
It all the time, as much as I possibly can. you know, and I book remote tunes all the time, and sometimes I do shit.

01:05:36:21 - 01:05:37:06
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean.

01:05:37:08 - 01:05:48:06
Shane Tecklenburg
The great thing about remote tuning is I can be in Bahrain in the morning, and I can be in England by lunch and in the afternoon I can be in Florida, and then I can still go home at 6:00, right, and see my wife and my kids. So.

01:05:48:16 - 01:05:51:01
Shane Tecklenburg
rotating is a huge, huge benefit.

01:05:51:01 - 01:05:52:05
Shane Tecklenburg
And the support part of it.

01:05:52:05 - 01:05:53:20
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, it just would blow.

01:05:53:20 - 01:06:01:15
Shane Tecklenburg
My mind if anybody was trying to do any kind of support at all and not using that, that capability because it totally changes the game.

01:06:01:17 - 01:06:06:20
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. So what makes you decide, like, hey, I need to be there versus I need to do this.

01:06:06:20 - 01:06:07:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Remote, right?

01:06:07:08 - 01:06:09:03
Shane Tecklenburg
So anything that's super.

01:06:09:03 - 01:06:12:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Technical, you know, I usually are a big project.

01:06:12:00 - 01:06:13:12
Shane Tecklenburg
I usually am like, look.

01:06:13:15 - 01:06:28:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You're probably better off to bring me at least the first time because I might walk in and look at something and go, oh, no, that's not going to work. But from the other end of the of the line, I'm not going to know until I can see something going wrong that, you know, there's an issue and then tell you to go look.

01:06:28:16 - 01:06:29:03
Shane Tecklenburg
But.

01:06:29:05 - 01:06:30:12
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I've been blown away.

01:06:30:12 - 01:06:32:29
Shane Tecklenburg
At the things that I've, I've caught.

01:06:33:09 - 01:06:33:20
Shane Tecklenburg
from.

01:06:33:20 - 01:06:39:25
Shane Tecklenburg
This end of the, of the computer that are, you know, several thousand miles away from me and only a.

01:06:39:25 - 01:06:40:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Few feet.

01:06:40:15 - 01:06:51:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Away from the people that are there until them turn around and, like, look and see if this fell off. Oh shit. Yeah. You're right that did you know like hey the engine doesn't run right. Hey look and see if the bolts are loose on the cam.

01:06:51:25 - 01:06:57:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Oh yeah. The cam bolts are loose like you're standing in front of it. I'm halfway across the world away. And I'm the.

01:06:57:03 - 01:06:58:28
Shane Tecklenburg
One that has to tell you the gamble to lose.

01:06:59:01 - 01:07:08:12
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, well, you know, that's why they're paying you the big money, though, because you're doing it so much that you like. You see something in the data and you're like, either something's.

01:07:08:12 - 01:07:08:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Not right.

01:07:08:29 - 01:07:17:26
Ken Bjonnes
Makes sense logically, or you've seen it happen before and you're like, oh, I this has happened five times before. And they're you blow their mind. Probably. So the reason they check this.

01:07:17:26 - 01:07:19:27
Shane Tecklenburg
It works is because Motec has a lot.

01:07:19:27 - 01:07:20:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Of information.

01:07:20:22 - 01:07:22:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Available. Other systems.

01:07:22:24 - 01:07:33:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Do too. But the reason it works because you can see a lot of sensor, a lot of sensor data, a lot of information. And for me, you know, a lot of people I know don't like remote tuning because they don't have that smell, that sound, that feel.

01:07:33:19 - 01:07:41:17
Shane Tecklenburg
But for me, it's better you don't have the pressure of the and and you don't have the.

01:07:41:17 - 01:07:45:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Surroundings influencing your decision making process. Sitting in a quiet.

01:07:45:14 - 01:07:47:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Room, you're strictly looking at data.

01:07:47:08 - 01:07:54:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And you're making data based, logical decisions. Not man, the owner standing over there going like this, how much longer are we going to be on the dyno?

01:07:54:21 - 01:07:55:28
Shane Tecklenburg
you don't have three guys.

01:07:55:28 - 01:08:03:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Giving you their opinion on what they think they just heard and saw. They're all wrong. You have to dispel all those rumors. It's a lot easier in a lot of cases.

01:08:03:10 - 01:08:03:29
Shane Tecklenburg
To do.

01:08:04:00 - 01:08:15:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Do it remotely. You have to be able to have the information available. You can't do it with no information, right? But if you got the information available, I find that a lot of times it's actually better and I can do a better job and I can make better decisions.

01:08:15:10 - 01:08:16:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Quicker.

01:08:16:14 - 01:08:17:24
Shane Tecklenburg
If I'm doing it remotely because I.

01:08:17:24 - 01:08:21:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Don't have all that help. That's good intentioned.

01:08:21:08 - 01:08:23:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Help, but a lot of times just sort of clouds your.

01:08:23:11 - 01:08:42:10
Ken Bjonnes
Judgment. Yeah. No, I think that's a huge point, actually, because I was going to make that point myself. But you made it for me, which is there's been many times, you know, I, I drag race my own cars a lot of the time. but unfortunately when I'm at a race, I'm drag racing, I'm tuning my car, I'm trying to help customers, and I miss it until I get home.

01:08:42:12 - 01:08:44:26
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And I go through the logs and I'm like, if I was at home.

01:08:44:28 - 01:08:47:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Sitting in my own car, I wouldn't. I would have told myself that.

01:08:47:19 - 01:09:06:01
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, I would have totally caught that, but I didn't even notice it till I have time to review the data. And that's what people don't understand about remote tuning is that part. It brings a little bit of calmness to it and it allows you to focus. You know it. I'm talking like a track type of tuning, not necessarily like the first time the engine fires.

01:09:06:01 - 01:09:24:28
Ken Bjonnes
You know, I like to be there a lot of the times for that stuff. But, you know, when I'm if you want me to tune your car at the track, I'd prefer to do it remotely because, you know, unless you need me more broadly as a little bit of a mini crew chief and, you know, with suspension and, you know, you, your to be there for that.

01:09:25:05 - 01:09:26:11
Ken Bjonnes
But if it's just tuning.

01:09:26:11 - 01:09:30:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Hey, I mean I've been at the track when the weather shit like it is here in Phoenix where Paul is.

01:09:30:25 - 01:09:32:21
Shane Tecklenburg
and I mean, I've.

01:09:32:21 - 01:09:37:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Literally been like, I'm going to remote tune it from inside the trailer where the air conditioning is, put the laptop in the car, I'll be in here.

01:09:38:02 - 01:09:59:20
Ken Bjonnes
That's great. so, do you find yourself, you know, most people, you're working with them through the life of a project, I'm guessing. Right? Like, especially when we're talking about the really high end stuff. Let's talk about some of the really crazy stuff you've done. recently. You just did, I saw a dyno pull of the sorceress.

01:09:59:20 - 01:10:00:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah.

01:10:00:09 - 01:10:00:21
Shane Tecklenburg
That was last.

01:10:00:21 - 01:10:02:09
Ken Bjonnes
Week. What? What did it make?

01:10:02:24 - 01:10:03:23
Shane Tecklenburg
4750.

01:10:03:23 - 01:10:04:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Ultimately.

01:10:04:14 - 01:10:08:06
Ken Bjonnes
That's crazy. and where was that with.

01:10:08:15 - 01:10:09:00
Shane Tecklenburg
so.

01:10:09:00 - 01:10:10:08
Shane Tecklenburg
In Saint Louis, guy named Dave.

01:10:10:08 - 01:10:11:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Steck. Okay.

01:10:11:08 - 01:10:13:18
Shane Tecklenburg
He has a all wheel drive mainline dyno.

01:10:13:18 - 01:10:16:28
Ken Bjonnes
Not that well, I always try for a GM guy or tuning.

01:10:16:28 - 01:10:19:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he has.

01:10:19:06 - 01:10:37:22
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, I have never been to a facility that's better than what his. I mean, he actually has the dyno in a real dyno cell. There's 36,000 or times to, I think CFM exhaust fans pulling air through the room and you know, and then the big air fan for the, you know, radiator or whatever that comes from mainline.

01:10:37:24 - 01:10:54:06
Shane Tecklenburg
The the room itself is an actual it's a real cell soundproof room. And then up on top of the roof you have the two exhausts going like that away from each other and the inlet point of this direction. So it can't I mean, that's a pretty common mistake you got to make. Even engine dyno, you go look at the roof and you run running gas or something.

01:10:54:06 - 01:10:55:12
Shane Tecklenburg
You can see the exhaust coming out and.

01:10:55:12 - 01:11:05:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Going right back into the room. You're just being the thing. EGR right. but, no, it's probably one of the better, if for sure. It's the best one I've been to.

01:11:05:26 - 01:11:14:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And there may be others, but but for me and, you know, Dave uses it for development for his products, which is mostly, you know, street driven corvettes, GM products.

01:11:14:17 - 01:11:16:02
Ken Bjonnes
And he's got that set up is all wheel drive.

01:11:16:03 - 01:11:30:03
Shane Tecklenburg
It's an all wheel drive setup, not we don't need that for the cars I'm working on. But the important part is that the rear wheel drive absorber will handle 6000 horsepower. So you want to put a Pro mod on it, which is what I've been putting on there. it's a tremendous opportunity.

01:11:30:06 - 01:11:32:11
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, and typically guys.

01:11:32:13 - 01:11:37:09
Shane Tecklenburg
That have dynos like that have them out in the middle of an open room where the exhaust is fucking.

01:11:37:11 - 01:11:37:26
Ken Bjonnes
Unnoticed.

01:11:37:29 - 01:11:39:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Going right back into the intake. And it's like.

01:11:39:28 - 01:11:55:10
Ken Bjonnes
I've noticed that before, you know, I've had that problem. I have, it's not a dinosaur, but a dino room. It's it's like that same kind of shape. And I've got really good fans, and there's been times where I'm a dumb ass and I don't turn the fans on, and I'm like, man, that like 15 horsepower.

01:11:55:11 - 01:11:56:23
Shane Tecklenburg
So, you know, like, I.

01:11:56:23 - 01:12:19:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Worked for this company back when I worked at Motec. I went to work this local. These guys were they did, Honda, Honda, off road, lake sand, real engines. So I went over there to engine dyno. I couldn't get one running one time or it didn't run right or I can't remember anyway. So I go over there and, so I go in the dining room, we start the engine and I do something, whatever, and I close the dining room doors, and then I go in the, the, the operators.

01:12:19:13 - 01:12:23:24
Shane Tecklenburg
It was really almost more like a hallway. I mean, I had to scoot around him to get past him. Right.

01:12:23:26 - 01:12:25:22
Shane Tecklenburg
And the cable.

01:12:25:24 - 01:12:34:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, there wasn't a cable. It was rope coming off the throttle. Tool would like a sawed off piece of broom handle. That was the throttle, right. And then it had an old manual load valves, a water brake.

01:12:34:14 - 01:12:34:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Right.

01:12:34:28 - 01:12:40:03
Shane Tecklenburg
So it was, you know, throttle open like this manual load valve and then pull the load off to run through a sweep.

01:12:40:06 - 01:12:41:06
Shane Tecklenburg
So anyway, this thing's.

01:12:41:06 - 01:12:51:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Sitting in there running and it's starts idling down a little bit and it's getting a little bit rich. So I put a little bit fuel out of it. And it sits there and runs and starts getting a little rich and idle and down. I pull little fuel out of it.

01:12:51:08 - 01:12:53:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And this repeats itself after about.

01:12:53:29 - 01:12:56:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Two and a half or three minutes. Finally, this thing is like.

01:12:56:01 - 01:13:00:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Dut dut dut dut it done, it dies right?

01:13:00:05 - 01:13:04:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And so I guess we go in and figure out what's wrong with it. So we go around the door and and the guy's.

01:13:04:29 - 01:13:11:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, did you, did you close these doors? And I said, yeah. He said, oh, you can't close the doors. I said, well, why not? I said, well, there's no exhaust.

01:13:11:20 - 01:13:14:29
Shane Tecklenburg
In the room. It just we just let the exhaust go out into the shop like we don't have just.

01:13:14:29 - 01:13:15:18
Shane Tecklenburg
So if you close.

01:13:15:18 - 01:13:17:19
Shane Tecklenburg
The door then it just eating its own exhaust.

01:13:17:19 - 01:13:19:13
Shane Tecklenburg
So yeah, of course I had to put.

01:13:19:13 - 01:13:27:10
Shane Tecklenburg
The fuel table back where it started when we opened the doors. But yeah, yeah, I've been in all sorts of crazy, weird situations like that all over the world.

01:13:27:12 - 01:13:33:28
Ken Bjonnes
Another car that I've seen you post a lot about. I can't recall the engine size, but the real small displacement engine.

01:13:33:28 - 01:13:34:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Oh, yeah.

01:13:34:08 - 01:13:52:12
Ken Bjonnes
The compound compound set up. I mean, that's the just looking at it looks absolutely crazy. And I've, noticed, you know, you've got. It's been a lot of hurdles. Yeah, I don't, I know, I don't know what they were. Let's talk a little bit about that. Like taking on a project like that. Well can get you super excited.

01:13:52:13 - 01:13:54:17
Ken Bjonnes
Still I something that insane.

01:13:54:17 - 01:13:58:28
Shane Tecklenburg
I ended up, you know, I guess I, I sort of I set.

01:13:58:28 - 01:14:02:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Myself up for that one because I had a customer who.

01:14:02:19 - 01:14:02:27
Shane Tecklenburg
came.

01:14:02:27 - 01:14:11:18
Shane Tecklenburg
To a race in Maryland with my other customers, and he came just to hang out for the race, and he ended up hitting it off. And we had a great time. so we hung out the whole weekend with us.

01:14:11:18 - 01:14:14:25
Shane Tecklenburg
And so he was putting this car together.

01:14:14:28 - 01:14:30:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, I want to say, like a starlet. And he had one of these little starlet engines, like a two valve. It's like a miniature hemi little four cylinder thing. But, I mean, it's an old antiquated thing, like. So he's talking about wanting to make a thousand horsepower with it, and guys that know them are like, you're no fucking way.

01:14:30:00 - 01:14:32:19
Shane Tecklenburg
You're making a thousand horsepower without blowing that thing all over the place.

01:14:32:21 - 01:14:40:20
Shane Tecklenburg
So what if we just make a billet head and a billet block and I'm like, man, why would you waste the time to build that? Why wouldn't you just, you know, get one of these.

01:14:40:20 - 01:14:42:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Get a neat Sr20. This thing makes two.

01:14:42:20 - 01:14:44:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Thousand, right? And it never it.

01:14:44:28 - 01:14:53:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Don't say it never breaks. But I mean for the most part it's reliable. It's proven. It's you just get one and it works. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel to make half the horsepower. So he's like.

01:14:53:03 - 01:15:01:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Oh yeah, well, you know what? You know what? What would you do? What's the craziest thing you could think of to do something like this? I said, I would have one of these and I would do a compound.

01:15:01:05 - 01:15:03:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Turbo setup and make 3000 horsepower.

01:15:03:05 - 01:15:04:06
Shane Tecklenburg
And then I'd put it in a.

01:15:04:06 - 01:15:07:17
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, in a, in a pro import car, and I'd be the first four cylinder in the fives at.

01:15:07:17 - 01:15:08:24
Shane Tecklenburg
250.

01:15:08:26 - 01:15:11:06
Shane Tecklenburg
We'd been drinking beer, so it seemed like a good idea.

01:15:11:06 - 01:15:12:01
Shane Tecklenburg
At the time.

01:15:12:03 - 01:15:19:09
Shane Tecklenburg
And he's like, you know, takes a sip of beer and he's staring at me. And I was, you know, pretty much just joking. We were just talking trash, right?

01:15:19:11 - 01:15:20:13
Shane Tecklenburg
But then I see him looking at.

01:15:20:13 - 01:15:21:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Me and I'm like, why is he looking at me this way.

01:15:21:25 - 01:15:28:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Son? He's like, you know, you really think he could do that? Like, you could do anything, right? Takes money. So then, you know.

01:15:28:24 - 01:15:30:13
Shane Tecklenburg
After the race, like I think about Monday.

01:15:30:13 - 01:15:34:06
Shane Tecklenburg
He goes, what do you think would actually take to do something like that? What do you think would actually cost?

01:15:34:07 - 01:15:39:03
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm like, I don't know. He was like, we'll figure it out. So okay, so I called Mark Marzouki. The guy built the.

01:15:39:03 - 01:15:40:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Engine like he wants to.

01:15:40:21 - 01:15:47:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Do an engine with a compound. I can figure out what the turbos and the other stuff cost. You got to figure out what the long block cost, give them the numbers. So we did.

01:15:48:03 - 01:15:51:00
Shane Tecklenburg
And like Wednesday, wired the money.

01:15:51:02 - 01:15:52:14
Shane Tecklenburg
And we're like.

01:15:52:16 - 01:15:54:25
Ken Bjonnes
Shit.

01:15:54:27 - 01:16:01:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Because now we actually have to do it right. So that's that's how that project started. And it was proof of.

01:16:01:22 - 01:16:03:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Concept first like.

01:16:03:00 - 01:16:06:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay, well, you know, I sat back and I thought, okay, one engine.

01:16:06:25 - 01:16:08:09
Shane Tecklenburg
I'll make 2000 horsepower.

01:16:08:12 - 01:16:09:12
Shane Tecklenburg
So just in.

01:16:09:12 - 01:16:11:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Very simple terms, first day of EFI school, right?

01:16:11:28 - 01:16:12:17
Shane Tecklenburg
If we put.

01:16:12:17 - 01:16:16:27
Shane Tecklenburg
One atmosphere on top of that 2000 horse engine, it should double the amount of power it makes.

01:16:16:29 - 01:16:17:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And we don't need to double it.

01:16:17:29 - 01:16:31:06
Shane Tecklenburg
We just need another thousand horsepower. So in theory, half an atmosphere where the air density to that 2000 horse engine makes 3000 horsepower. Now, I'm not stupid. I know if you're going to try and make 3000 horsepower at the same RPM, the cylinder pressure is going to be way up, and it's going to try.

01:16:31:06 - 01:16:32:09
Shane Tecklenburg
And make the gap.

01:16:32:09 - 01:16:38:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Between the cylinder head and the crankshaft bigger, right? So you probably need to find a way to mitigate that. Well, the best way I can think.

01:16:38:23 - 01:16:41:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Of is just rev it up. So.

01:16:41:04 - 01:16:44:23
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I talked to Mark how we already turn the thing like 11 to I'm like, well how.

01:16:44:23 - 01:16:45:05
Shane Tecklenburg
High do you.

01:16:45:05 - 01:16:46:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Think we could actually rev it up and not fling shit.

01:16:46:23 - 01:16:47:07
Shane Tecklenburg
On the ground?

01:16:47:09 - 01:17:02:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Now we've accidentally gone 12 two before like, okay, so maybe 12,000. Yeah, maybe 12,000. So do a quick calculation of how much torque it takes to make 3000 at 12,000 rpm. Like it doesn't take much more torque than we're making now to make 2000 at, you know, eight.

01:17:02:03 - 01:17:08:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Thousand, right. Or 9000 like maybe this is possible. So try thinking how can I get enough turbo?

01:17:08:21 - 01:17:19:00
Shane Tecklenburg
The problem then was there was no single turbo that would move enough air, or at least not anyone you would actually want to go race with. that would move up there to make 3000 horsepower. So I thought, well.

01:17:19:03 - 01:17:21:01
Shane Tecklenburg
How about two of what we already have?

01:17:21:03 - 01:17:28:04
Shane Tecklenburg
That'll make 2000. Two of them should make 4000. We already know it's an 88 millimeter turbo. They run those in pro mod. They make 4000.

01:17:28:06 - 01:17:31:22
Shane Tecklenburg
So it will move the air. So what if you just use two of those.

01:17:31:22 - 01:17:32:29
Shane Tecklenburg
As the primary turbo.

01:17:33:01 - 01:17:37:23
Shane Tecklenburg
To feed the one turbo. And then again, it should only take eight or maybe 10 pounds of boost.

01:17:37:23 - 01:17:38:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Right.

01:17:38:00 - 01:17:41:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And it should only that's you know, you might notice.

01:17:41:08 - 01:17:42:16
Shane Tecklenburg
A pattern in my life.

01:17:42:18 - 01:17:47:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Like that'll be easy. We'll just. Anyway, so, the idea was to,

01:17:47:25 - 01:18:01:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Go run it on the engine. I know, and and we found a fabrication guy and said, look, here's what you got to do. It's just got to fit in the dining room and make sure everything's spread apart so we can reach it when it's. You can in fucked up or whatever, and we can so we can.

01:18:01:04 - 01:18:03:20
Shane Tecklenburg
See if this is even viable, because maybe we're just totally.

01:18:03:25 - 01:18:05:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Smoking dope and it's never going to work.

01:18:06:00 - 01:18:07:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So he did he you know, he built he.

01:18:07:15 - 01:18:22:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Built basically a turbo kit around our single turbo setup for the other car, and we went and ran that. We evaluated turbos on one day with, with the one guys engine, and then we took the second engine and all those same parts and then put the compound stuff around it and ran it the second day with a compound stuff on it.

01:18:22:29 - 01:18:24:16
Shane Tecklenburg
So the first clue we had was.

01:18:24:16 - 01:18:25:19
Shane Tecklenburg
That the water.

01:18:25:19 - 01:18:29:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Brake Dyna we were using, which it was a, is a super flow.

01:18:31:08 - 01:18:34:24
Shane Tecklenburg
well, that thing, in order to get this little dinky four.

01:18:34:24 - 01:18:43:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Cylinder engine that makes zero. I mean, it's the thing makes it with no boost. All that, it makes 120ft pounds of torque, you know, an 80 horsepower with boost.

01:18:43:22 - 01:18:45:00
Shane Tecklenburg
It makes, you know, two.

01:18:45:00 - 01:18:56:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Thousand, you know, and probably 1200 foot pounds of torque, something like that. So the problem is trying to get the dyno to take enough load off of the load unit in the on the water brake to allow the engine to get revved up enough to start the dyno pull.

01:18:57:18 - 01:18:58:24
Shane Tecklenburg
So we on on.

01:18:58:24 - 01:19:02:13
Shane Tecklenburg
The single turbo engine it would start making boost about 7000.

01:19:02:15 - 01:19:03:12
Shane Tecklenburg
But with the compound.

01:19:03:12 - 01:19:05:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Setup it wouldn't make boost till about 8000.

01:19:05:21 - 01:19:07:27
Shane Tecklenburg
So we have to effectively limit.

01:19:07:27 - 01:19:11:23
Shane Tecklenburg
The water flow into the dyno with a manual water valve. The water.

01:19:11:23 - 01:19:15:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Inlet valve to loosen the dyno up enough to let the engine even get to.

01:19:15:25 - 01:19:25:00
Shane Tecklenburg
8000. So it'll start making boost. And then the problem is it'll make, you know, 2000ft pounds of torque and the dyno got enough water to hold 300ft pounds of torque.

01:19:25:03 - 01:19:26:21
Shane Tecklenburg
So we would basically just.

01:19:26:21 - 01:19:28:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Do burnouts against the dyno when we were trying to make.

01:19:28:20 - 01:19:30:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Pulls with it. We made 21.

01:19:30:18 - 01:19:44:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Hundred, but it was a kind of a bullshit number because it was, you know, skipping off the rev limiter and whatever else. So we said, okay, here's what we can do. We broke broke a couple of flanges on some intake pipes. We kind of knew we needed to stop, go see if the engine was any good still, or we'd already destroyed it.

01:19:44:27 - 01:19:52:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, there wasn't any parts up out of it or anything like that, but still, we wanted to go. Look, we just fed the thing 125 pounds of boost. There was bound to be something wrong with it.

01:19:52:26 - 01:19:53:14
Shane Tecklenburg
So we thought.

01:19:53:15 - 01:19:54:26
Ken Bjonnes
25 pounds.

01:19:54:28 - 01:19:59:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. I mean, that's just the start. I mean, these things in theory they'll make six times six boost atmospheres.

01:20:00:05 - 01:20:00:17
Shane Tecklenburg
12.

01:20:00:17 - 01:20:01:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Atmospheres.

01:20:01:22 - 01:20:06:23
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, you can make more boost than you can keep it contained in any of the any of the tubes. The tubes will break.

01:20:06:23 - 01:20:16:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Apart, you know. So that was one concern I had was, you know, boost control and making sure we didn't have a runaway thing where it would just make some insane amount of boost and blow itself apart before we even got a chance to try.

01:20:16:06 - 01:20:16:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Right.

01:20:16:23 - 01:20:28:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Turned out that wasn't really that big of a problem. But anyway, so the idea was to come back to the engine dyno and let the Motec control the water valve feed in the dyno so we could basically turn it off, get the engine revved up, and once it was in boost.

01:20:28:27 - 01:20:29:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Shove.

01:20:29:09 - 01:20:31:28
Shane Tecklenburg
The water valve open so the dyno could hold the engine.

01:20:32:01 - 01:20:32:20
Shane Tecklenburg
And then we could.

01:20:32:20 - 01:20:34:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Make, you know, an engine dyno pull.

01:20:34:14 - 01:20:35:09
Shane Tecklenburg
But in the meantime.

01:20:35:09 - 01:20:35:27
Shane Tecklenburg
They decided tune.

01:20:35:27 - 01:20:37:00
Ken Bjonnes
The dyno first.

01:20:37:03 - 01:20:38:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, we're just going to use the easier to control.

01:20:38:24 - 01:20:40:13
Shane Tecklenburg
The part of the dyno that we couldn't get to work. Right.

01:20:40:13 - 01:20:44:01
Shane Tecklenburg
So the problem was they start building the car, you know.

01:20:44:01 - 01:21:03:00
Shane Tecklenburg
And then that took on a whole life of itself. And that's what the pictures you've seen that, you know, pictures passed around on social media of that car. and it took, you know, three and a half years basically to get to that point. And in the meantime, the guy that originally was, you know, sent the money to go do the project.

01:21:03:00 - 01:21:05:11
Shane Tecklenburg
He's kind of moved on in his life and he's.

01:21:05:11 - 01:21:06:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Sort of like.

01:21:06:21 - 01:21:10:15
Shane Tecklenburg
And I really even care about this thing anymore. So it's kind of in limbo.

01:21:10:17 - 01:21:13:11
Shane Tecklenburg
And the team that we had originally met.

01:21:13:14 - 01:21:30:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Together at, World Cup and run the engine on the engine die and all that stuff, those guys were kind of at the point where they were they're competing in the four cylinder class, and the guys in that class are now running five 80s. When we crashed their car about five years ago, and it took a few years to fix, and the class progressed.

01:21:30:03 - 01:21:31:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, we were running six 20s.

01:21:31:20 - 01:21:32:24
Shane Tecklenburg

01:21:32:27 - 01:21:44:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And we still have a 620 car to go compete against guys that are running 580. So it's like, look, we're probably never going to get there. You know? I mean, we maybe we will, but I don't know how much time and money will spend doing it. We need a car. Where can we get a car?

01:21:45:01 - 01:21:46:07
Shane Tecklenburg
So I maybe.

01:21:46:07 - 01:21:50:13
Shane Tecklenburg
We go ask the guy with a compound what he's doing with the car. Maybe he doesn't even want the car anymore.

01:21:50:14 - 01:21:55:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, he goes, okay, I'll give you the car. You can have it.

01:21:55:12 - 01:22:12:06
Shane Tecklenburg
buy it on time, whatever it's going to be. But you have to run it as a compound first, which I'm good with, because I wanted to see it work anyway. Right. So that's where we're at now. Where we're at now is finish the car to the point where you can take it the race track and see how it's going to work with the compound set up on it.

01:22:12:09 - 01:22:19:11
Shane Tecklenburg
The last time we ran it, it made in 2050 or something like that at the wheels, at about 100 pounds a boost.

01:22:19:11 - 01:22:26:12
Shane Tecklenburg
But I have been on this, on this, sort of journey of thinking that what.

01:22:26:12 - 01:22:33:10
Shane Tecklenburg
I needed to do with the compound setup was to keep all of the turbos sitting in the middle of their efficiency island to get the most power out of it.

01:22:35:12 - 01:22:36:00
Shane Tecklenburg
I proved.

01:22:36:00 - 01:22:41:17
Shane Tecklenburg
To myself at the last dyno session by going the wrong direction first.

01:22:42:29 - 01:22:44:13
Shane Tecklenburg
that my line of thinking.

01:22:44:13 - 01:22:59:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Is just completely fucked. I need to go back to what I was originally talking about doing. Take a 2000 horsepower engine, put half an atmosphere on it to make 3000. What I've been trying to do is make 3000. With the combination of the two turbos being in their perfect happy spot, and it doesn't work.

01:22:59:24 - 01:23:00:16
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah.

01:23:00:18 - 01:23:07:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So next time we go back, I mean, we're either going to make the number we're going to make or we're not. We're going to race the car one way or the other because we just need to do that.

01:23:07:12 - 01:23:09:27
Shane Tecklenburg
But what I need to do is get it back to.

01:23:09:27 - 01:23:13:09
Shane Tecklenburg
The point where with a single turbo, it's a 2000 horsepower engine that we're trying.

01:23:13:09 - 01:23:13:24
Shane Tecklenburg
To boost.

01:23:13:28 - 01:23:18:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, instead of trying to split it between the two stages. And I think when I do that, I'll get the number that I want.

01:23:18:18 - 01:23:22:07
Ken Bjonnes
And you're looking for somewhere in the upper 2 or 3000, I would say 20.

01:23:22:09 - 01:23:24:27
Shane Tecklenburg
It depends on the number. I mean, ultimately I said 3000.

01:23:24:27 - 01:23:40:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So it'd be really nice if we had 3000. I was talking about 3000 at the crank, because we had a 2000 horse at the crank engine that we were talking about at that time. So, you know, depending on the losses on, I'm guessing probably 26 or 2700 at the wheels.

01:23:40:17 - 01:23:40:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Would.

01:23:40:26 - 01:23:52:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Be enough to kind of say, yeah, that's probably 3000 at the crank. And in the end, I don't know that it really matters if it makes 3000. I mean, reality, we could just go race it with what it is now and that may end up happening. But the concept right now is to go back one.

01:23:52:11 - 01:23:54:25
Shane Tecklenburg
More, to give me one more chance. So we the.

01:23:54:25 - 01:23:56:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Last time we ran it, it.

01:23:56:04 - 01:23:59:12
Shane Tecklenburg
It made 2070. So what I had done.

01:23:59:12 - 01:24:01:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Is, gone the opposite way.

01:24:01:23 - 01:24:02:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Tried to speed the.

01:24:02:12 - 01:24:16:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Low pressure turbo up and slow the high pressure turbo down. And I think we're at 2007 and it made 1860 that way, 115 pounds of boost. And like, I don't know, some stupid 125 pounds back pressure.

01:24:16:22 - 01:24:19:07
Shane Tecklenburg
So then I went just, I just let me just try a.

01:24:19:07 - 01:24:30:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Small step the opposite way around speed the high pressure turbo slow, the low pressure turbos down and it made 103 pounds of boost. It made 2070. So it's like, oh, that's the right direction, but.

01:24:30:08 - 01:24:30:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Let's.

01:24:30:13 - 01:24:43:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Start it for the next poll. Had water coming out on the ground. So I had cracked the exhaust port. In the end. We didn't know then, but now it's been apart and the exhaust ports crack leaking water. And so we hadn't heard the engine bottom and still good. Everything was good and he took it apart. Just needs a head.

01:24:43:15 - 01:24:46:27
Shane Tecklenburg
So that one is.

01:24:47:00 - 01:24:47:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Slow progress.

01:24:47:25 - 01:24:55:06
Ken Bjonnes
Still going. So what kind of boost is like the other like bigger motors running like sorcerer.

01:24:55:06 - 01:24:56:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. So that that.

01:24:56:06 - 01:24:59:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Was 4750 at 70.

01:24:59:14 - 01:25:00:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Pounds of boost.

01:25:00:04 - 01:25:06:19
Ken Bjonnes
70 pounds. Because like when you're talking like a hundred plus pounds, a boost in my mind, I'm like, how's the head stay on, you know.

01:25:06:19 - 01:25:06:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Yes.

01:25:06:27 - 01:25:11:21
Shane Tecklenburg
I used to be really scared of that. And what got me over it was working with the guys in the Middle East.

01:25:12:09 - 01:25:14:06
Shane Tecklenburg
and then having,

01:25:14:09 - 01:25:16:15
Shane Tecklenburg
The Titan guys come over and, you know.

01:25:16:17 - 01:25:18:25
Shane Tecklenburg
We were running, like.

01:25:18:27 - 01:25:20:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Two stages in nitrous.

01:25:21:01 - 01:25:24:03
Shane Tecklenburg
On Q 16.

01:25:24:05 - 01:25:25:14
Shane Tecklenburg
On their two J and.

01:25:25:14 - 01:25:29:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Making, like 50, 55, 57.

01:25:29:17 - 01:25:31:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Which was a lot seem like insane.

01:25:32:04 - 01:25:33:12
Shane Tecklenburg
amount of boost.

01:25:33:15 - 01:25:36:25
Shane Tecklenburg
And then those guys showed up and they're like, no, no, like you got to run.

01:25:36:25 - 01:25:41:00
Shane Tecklenburg
70, like 70 pounds. Are you crazy? Like, how do you you can get a map sensor to.

01:25:41:00 - 01:25:46:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Work for that. So you know, so it's only a five bar map was available. That answer. So that used to be, you know, super.

01:25:46:06 - 01:25:47:03
Shane Tecklenburg
But what I.

01:25:47:03 - 01:25:58:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Pretty quickly realized is like it really is just a number. I know it blows everybody's mind, you know, and you get you get mileage out of it by saying, you know, I'm running this much. You know, there was a joke at one point, like, we're running more boost in oil pressure.

01:25:58:28 - 01:26:00:26
Shane Tecklenburg
And yeah, I mean, there's a million ways.

01:26:00:26 - 01:26:02:13
Shane Tecklenburg
You can skin that cap. But,

01:26:02:15 - 01:26:03:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Again, you get big.

01:26:03:09 - 01:26:09:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Mileage out of it because it surprises everybody. But in the end, it really isn't any different. You know, if you just get rid of that number, didn't know what it.

01:26:09:29 - 01:26:12:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Was, right. You probably would be better.

01:26:12:06 - 01:26:13:13
Shane Tecklenburg
You wouldn't be nearly as scared.

01:26:13:13 - 01:26:14:19
Shane Tecklenburg
But you don't.

01:26:14:19 - 01:26:18:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Do anything different when you're making 120 pounds boots and you do to make it 3 pounds of.

01:26:18:04 - 01:26:21:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Boost or no boost. Yeah, you know, it's the same process.

01:26:21:21 - 01:26:30:00
Shane Tecklenburg
The numbers are bigger then you got to be a little bit more careful. But I mean it's it's basically all the same. And you would never, ever be able to get to that boost on those little engines without an intercooler.

01:26:30:02 - 01:26:35:21
Ken Bjonnes
I'm pretty much all this crazy stuff's on methanol. Yeah. For the most part. What you said one was.

01:26:35:21 - 01:26:43:01
Shane Tecklenburg
On some of it was. Yeah. Like. Yeah. So that started because we weren't ready to go crazy and try and run methanol. So we were even crazier.

01:26:43:04 - 01:26:44:24
Shane Tecklenburg
But the interesting thing apart about.

01:26:44:24 - 01:26:46:05
Shane Tecklenburg
That, you know, we started out with that.

01:26:46:05 - 01:26:46:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Thing.

01:26:46:23 - 01:26:48:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Had a Gt40 or seven on it.

01:26:48:25 - 01:26:51:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Ran Q 16. it was.

01:26:51:07 - 01:27:01:26
Shane Tecklenburg
A, you know, full body but race supra, which was, you know, if anybody ever tried to do that, I'm sure plenty of people have, you know, even when they're light, they weigh like 3600. Just ridiculous.

01:27:01:28 - 01:27:03:18
Shane Tecklenburg
So it had they wanted.

01:27:03:18 - 01:27:09:14
Shane Tecklenburg
To run two stages of nitrous. They wanted a 250 shot and a 150 shot that we were just going to use to sport. And I thought, you guys.

01:27:09:14 - 01:27:14:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Are you could never make it. I mean, that'll just immediately blow up. That'll never work.

01:27:15:01 - 01:27:28:22
Shane Tecklenburg
But it turns out it worked reasonably well. and, you know, you can spool the thing up pretty quick and then run 35 or 40 pounds a boost because that was like, man, that's a pretty crazy amount of boost. this is 2007.

01:27:28:24 - 01:27:31:21
Shane Tecklenburg
So, you know, we used that thing.

01:27:31:21 - 01:27:41:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Would that thing would break itself or push the head gasket out of it. I don't know if you made ten runs would do it every three runs or every four runs. so.

01:27:41:13 - 01:27:42:03
Shane Tecklenburg
It got to the.

01:27:42:03 - 01:28:00:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Point, though, as time went on, when I cared about it less, we got the other car right. We had two cars. We had it. We had basically this this car that we built at Titan. That was another, another super. But it was effectively a pro mod, and that was a one run and 70 pounds of boost in. And so when that car showed up like that was that have way more technology and it was a way cooler car than the original car.

01:28:00:18 - 01:28:03:00
Shane Tecklenburg
So I remember that race. I'm like.

01:28:03:02 - 01:28:03:10
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm.

01:28:03:10 - 01:28:15:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Done, I'm done with this thing. Like, let's just let's just run it with one stage of nitrous on the whole way down, and that'll be the end of that. It won't even start after that. So we'll see what that does. So it went you know, it was running like seven 80s went like 760.

01:28:15:03 - 01:28:17:05
Shane Tecklenburg
I was like, oh well let's just turn the other one.

01:28:17:05 - 01:28:25:10
Shane Tecklenburg
On then and see what happens, you know? So then we turned the other stage on all the way down and it goes 730 okay. Now it's starting to be cool again. Now I'm starting to like it because it's starting to be fast.

01:28:25:10 - 01:28:26:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And we should have.

01:28:26:17 - 01:28:33:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Done that years, years, years ahead of that. but counterintuitively,

01:28:33:02 - 01:28:35:04
Shane Tecklenburg
The more boost you run.

01:28:35:06 - 01:28:37:11
Shane Tecklenburg
The more nitrous you can get away with.

01:28:38:04 - 01:28:38:26
Shane Tecklenburg
and.

01:28:38:29 - 01:28:44:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And the reason I believe that is, is that you're effectively diluting the nitrous with the air.

01:28:44:14 - 01:28:45:28
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, if you if you put.

01:28:45:28 - 01:28:49:26
Shane Tecklenburg
700 horsepower worth of nitrous on a 100 horsepower engine, that isn't a.

01:28:49:26 - 01:28:50:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Huge.

01:28:50:14 - 01:28:52:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Proportion of nitrous compared to the amount of air the engine.

01:28:52:16 - 01:28:54:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Can use. But if you start.

01:28:54:14 - 01:28:56:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Putting 700 horsepower on a 3000 horsepower.

01:28:56:23 - 01:29:00:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Engine, that's not that big percentage wise. And, you.

01:29:00:08 - 01:29:08:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Know, with a nitrous mod engine, they sort of have that same trend. You see them making the engines bigger and bigger and bigger, and the bigger they make them, the better they run, because they're diluting the nitrous down with air.

01:29:08:28 - 01:29:09:12
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah.

01:29:09:14 - 01:29:13:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And so with these little engines, in the end, you know, I told you used.

01:29:13:08 - 01:29:14:16
Shane Tecklenburg
To break them all the time.

01:29:14:19 - 01:29:19:09
Shane Tecklenburg
By the time we stopped running that thing, we were we had three stages on it because once I knew two.

01:29:19:09 - 01:29:22:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Stages worked, I told them we need to have three stages. And then they're telling me.

01:29:22:10 - 01:29:29:06
Shane Tecklenburg
You're crazy the way you can run them. That's. I'm telling you, trust me, it'll work. But yeah, it would be like 65.

01:29:29:06 - 01:29:29:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Or 70 pounds a.

01:29:29:29 - 01:29:32:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Boost on Q 16.

01:29:33:04 - 01:29:34:08
Shane Tecklenburg
with an intercooler.

01:29:34:10 - 01:29:36:16
Shane Tecklenburg
And a 100.

01:29:36:16 - 01:29:39:12
Shane Tecklenburg
A 150 and a 250 shot of nitrous on top.

01:29:39:12 - 01:29:41:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Of it, and it would live.

01:29:41:04 - 01:30:00:03
Ken Bjonnes
That's crazy. I do a lot of. Yeah. I mean, not nearly, total horsepower that high, but a lot of, street drag cars with boost and nitrous. And, you know, people freak out and I go, you gotta think about it. We're only adding, like, 10 or 15% more power. Yeah. You know, you're not. Even when I do the dyno poll, you're not even going to know there's nitrous.

01:30:00:03 - 01:30:01:24
Ken Bjonnes
Like a nitrous car. Yeah, well.

01:30:01:26 - 01:30:02:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, you know, it's a.

01:30:02:20 - 01:30:17:15
Ken Bjonnes
No, it I'm like, you know, and I did a just did one last week and it was like a 1200 horsepower car with like 100 made 1300 before that. I don't think he's like all of the nitrous didn't come on I go. No, I came on, I yeah, it was on. I'm pretty sure I see that step. Yeah.

01:30:17:17 - 01:30:39:07
Ken Bjonnes
So, another thing I wanted to ask you. not necessarily from you, but I've, you know, I like to just say, you know, which may be the grass is always greener on the other side. I would love to do what you do. Like, that's like if I just was working off of passion and, like, if I could just back up and, like, start over.

01:30:39:09 - 01:31:05:18
Ken Bjonnes
I would like to do more just straight race car stuff, you know, because to me, that's more, fun, right? Like everything that streetcars bring, I don't really like that. but. And, you know, I raced, quite a bit in the MRA. and I thought I was going to go down that path. And then I made a conscious decision, very conscious decision that I'm like, well, am I going to be a race car guy or street car guy?

01:31:05:21 - 01:31:25:02
Ken Bjonnes
And, you know, I made my decision based off of dollars and scalability and like, well, you know, if I do that route, I'm the guy kind of like what you said, you know, you're the product. And I'm like, maybe I'll go this route and try to build a successful business where I have enough money that, you know, now I can go race whenever I want.

01:31:25:07 - 01:31:42:20
Ken Bjonnes
And I have all this infrastructure just turning away, you know, and it's worked out slightly that way. I'm not racing right now, but, you know, the business is okay. but when I see guys like you, at the race supporting people, how do you handle multiple customers at the same track? Does that happen? Yeah.

01:31:42:24 - 01:31:45:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, yeah. But I but I, I don't have.

01:31:45:01 - 01:31:47:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Enough bandwidth to be able to do more than about three max.

01:31:47:29 - 01:31:50:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. And the more I.

01:31:50:00 - 01:31:51:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Do, the less each one of them gets.

01:31:51:25 - 01:31:52:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. So then it's so.

01:31:52:26 - 01:31:55:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Then it's a matter of okay, well how do you charge for this? Like you.

01:31:55:22 - 01:31:56:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Can't.

01:31:56:14 - 01:32:00:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Necessarily charge them all the same and give them one third of the work. Right, right.

01:32:01:15 - 01:32:03:18
Shane Tecklenburg
and so you have to scale.

01:32:03:18 - 01:32:09:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Down what you're charging and then in reality, you're making the same money but doing three times the work. So that doesn't make much sense either.

01:32:09:13 - 01:32:10:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. So you know.

01:32:10:22 - 01:32:24:07
Ken Bjonnes
You know, you you're it. If the race was smooth, which it's never smooth, never any car. But let's say it was and you can equally divide your time. That's fine. But now this guy has a huge problem that you're in his pit for six hours.

01:32:24:07 - 01:32:25:00
Shane Tecklenburg
And everyone else's and.

01:32:25:00 - 01:32:28:05
Ken Bjonnes
Everybody's pissed. You know, I don't know that for sure. I'm just.

01:32:28:07 - 01:32:28:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, I.

01:32:28:24 - 01:32:42:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Do know it for sure because I was there. So there was one year, in fact, the last year. But when I was working in the middle East before we started bringing on a bunch more people from the US, I was there was they had nine cars and I think I was in charge of seven of them.

01:32:42:08 - 01:32:43:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And it was no.

01:32:43:12 - 01:32:48:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Problem as long as every single one of them was working exactly how it's supposed to. But as soon as there was anything wrong and.

01:32:48:14 - 01:32:50:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Then, man, if more than.

01:32:50:00 - 01:33:02:16
Shane Tecklenburg
One of them had a problem and I mean, at one point, I remember I didn't. I never left because in Bahrain you pit in the F1 garages, right. And the starting lines, you're at the finish line, the starting line quarter mile away.

01:33:02:29 - 01:33:05:25
Shane Tecklenburg
in I mean, they're they're coming, they're going.

01:33:05:25 - 01:33:09:24
Shane Tecklenburg
And it's a test day and they're going to test. And I'm literally.

01:33:09:24 - 01:33:10:22
Shane Tecklenburg
I never left the garage.

01:33:10:22 - 01:33:13:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I never went to the starting line. I never saw one car run down the racetrack.

01:33:13:24 - 01:33:15:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Because as soon as one car.

01:33:15:06 - 01:33:17:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Left, another one showed back up. And then I had to work on that one.

01:33:17:22 - 01:33:23:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. You know, even if there was nothing to fix, and I, I told him, I said, look, I can't I can't do that. You need to get we need to get.

01:33:23:22 - 01:33:27:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Some people in here to help, you know, do some of this stuff because I just can't do all this.

01:33:27:09 - 01:33:45:21
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And that, that that's a real good point because I've been in that position myself where I'm not even charging because I'm there racing. And I have a lot of, you know, street car races, not root like, it's like those are real races, but you know what I mean? Not like outlaw type stuff to street car stuff. But you know what?

01:33:46:11 - 01:33:58:29
Ken Bjonnes
I don't blame the guy for coming to my pit being like, hey, man, can I get some help? Like, they would even pay if they wanted to. You know, it's not a I didn't go to there to help them, but now all of a sudden, I'm in my pit. My car's messed up. I need to work on it.

01:33:59:02 - 01:34:18:27
Ken Bjonnes
I don't want to turn my back on this guy. Sure. And people don't get it. And it's like even, you know, and I have other tuners that work with me or work for Palm Beach dyno, and, you know, they're helping me and I'm still like, I can't even I can't, this is impossible. I would never want to do this on a regular basis.

01:34:18:29 - 01:34:30:19
Ken Bjonnes
And I just I find myself in that position a lot where I just fall into it because I'm the type of guy that if you ask me for help, I'm going to help, right? You know, I'm not going to. It's hard to say. I'm your man. Tough. Look, you know, so so.

01:34:30:19 - 01:34:30:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Go.

01:34:30:27 - 01:34:38:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Circling back to what you asked a while ago, one of the advantages you have that I don't have is that right there on your shirt, it says Palm Beach dyno. It doesn't. Stay tuned.

01:34:38:25 - 01:34:40:04
Shane Tecklenburg
By Ken. Yeah.

01:34:40:06 - 01:34:42:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Mindsets tuned by Shane T yeah.

01:34:42:11 - 01:34:44:03
Shane Tecklenburg
So I can't send Joe.

01:34:44:06 - 01:34:45:00
Ken Bjonnes
Right.

01:34:45:03 - 01:34:50:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Because that's not Shane T yeah, why am I paying Shane T prices for not Shane T right, right.

01:34:50:05 - 01:34:53:07
Shane Tecklenburg
And it's not even about the money. I mean, why are you sending.

01:34:53:07 - 01:34:55:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Somebody that doesn't have your skill set?

01:34:55:03 - 01:34:55:22
Ken Bjonnes
You do these.

01:34:55:25 - 01:35:02:10
Shane Tecklenburg
I want your fucking skill set. I don't care what it costs. Right? I want you because I want what you can deliver. I don't want you sending.

01:35:02:12 - 01:35:08:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Someone to your place. So there's that aspect of it, too. I didn't, you know, I didn't recognize that when I got.

01:35:08:21 - 01:35:11:27
Shane Tecklenburg
I mean, I just drew a name that I, you know, I was actually a couple friends of.

01:35:11:27 - 01:35:25:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Mine, a couple friends got COSLA, Mark and, Eric Oslo, the twins, they had a TV show on back way back when, in fact I went and worked on them. When I was at Motec. I went worked with them, putting an engine in a supra for their TV show Super Tuner. I think it was called.

01:35:25:02 - 01:35:26:21
Shane Tecklenburg
So, they're the.

01:35:26:21 - 01:35:31:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Ones that taught me like, look, you got to promote yourself. You got to come up with something. And actually.

01:35:31:06 - 01:35:34:10
Shane Tecklenburg
I was still working at Motec, and I had worked.

01:35:34:10 - 01:35:41:05
Shane Tecklenburg
With, Vinnie ten. Who who those guys actually had worked for in New York, too. And he was kind of the same way. And he's like.

01:35:41:07 - 01:35:41:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Look, I want to.

01:35:41:24 - 01:35:45:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Put something on the car and say thanks for the extra effort. Because, look.

01:35:45:03 - 01:35:45:23
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, even when I.

01:35:45:23 - 01:35:46:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Worked at Motec, I didn't.

01:35:46:23 - 01:35:58:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Just show up and do my Motec job and, and leave. And and that's the case with almost all of these projects. You know, you come in with one skill set, but you end up being the most knowledgeable.

01:35:58:23 - 01:35:59:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Guy in the room with that.

01:35:59:23 - 01:36:03:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Car in general, because the other people you're working with maybe don't know.

01:36:03:19 - 01:36:06:24
Shane Tecklenburg
How parts of the drivetrain work, or they don't know how the transmission works or.

01:36:06:27 - 01:36:14:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Whatever it is. And so you you cross-pollinate yourself because you have to in order to do your job. You have to help them with the other jobs that they.

01:36:14:22 - 01:36:15:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Necessarily don't know how to.

01:36:15:22 - 01:36:19:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Do. Yet to be able to get the car into a position where you can do the part, you know.

01:36:20:00 - 01:36:38:08
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And that's both trying to help and being a little bit self-serving because what's the point of you making 3000 horsepower if they can't use it. Yeah, they can't use it. So I find myself in that position a lot to where it's like I don't, you know, there's other people that might know more than me on this topic, but not in this pit.

01:36:38:11 - 01:36:38:15
Ken Bjonnes
Right?

01:36:38:15 - 01:36:41:08
Shane Tecklenburg
So not not here, right now. Yeah. So you become the.

01:36:41:10 - 01:36:43:12
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, the voted expert or whatever it is. So.

01:36:43:15 - 01:36:44:11
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, and obviously you.

01:36:44:11 - 01:36:48:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Don't want to stand around and do nothing when you have the opportunity. The best thing you can see, something you can maybe make better.

01:36:48:11 - 01:36:50:12
Shane Tecklenburg
So anyway, the point is you put the.

01:36:50:12 - 01:36:52:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Extra effort in. And so, you know, Vinny's like, hey.

01:36:52:26 - 01:36:55:13
Shane Tecklenburg
I want to help you. Like, what can I you.

01:36:55:13 - 01:36:57:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Want me to put Motec on the car? Like I said?

01:36:57:15 - 01:36:59:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, just put a Motec sticker. And he's like, well, that's dumb.

01:36:59:09 - 01:37:09:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Because, you know, Motec is not the one that helped me. You know, do the clutch in the car and do this in the car and all this other stuff. And like, I want to put your name on the car and I'm like, man, I don't really want I want to get in trouble.

01:37:09:04 - 01:37:10:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, so pick a name, like.

01:37:10:28 - 01:37:20:02
Shane Tecklenburg
All right, how about Tuned by Shane T? And that's where it started. And he put it on the first time on this, 350 Z that they're racing in pro rear wheel drive.

01:37:20:08 - 01:37:20:27
Shane Tecklenburg

01:37:21:06 - 01:37:29:25
Shane Tecklenburg
spark compact. And so that was the that was where it started. It was between him and the twins. But I didn't realize that I was.

01:37:29:28 - 01:37:36:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Now, listen, this is maybe this is just a self-fulfilling excuse, to not have.

01:37:36:18 - 01:37:39:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Employees, but that is definitely.

01:37:39:06 - 01:37:43:12
Shane Tecklenburg
A part of it. you know, and I picked the I picked a name that.

01:37:43:15 - 01:37:45:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Makes it difficult to have Joe show up instead.

01:37:46:05 - 01:38:10:20
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, there's pluses and minuses there too, though, because, you know. I'm taking you know, obviously I found in Palm Beach know I've been training for 20 years, but there's been, stretches throughout my career. and at Palm Beach, Gino, where I try to take a step back because I didn't want to be in the limelight. But then that person moves on, right?

01:38:10:20 - 01:38:32:27
Ken Bjonnes
And people, you know, the Mustang world is very, every day there's new people, right? It's not like, oh, yeah, everybody, everybody knows who I was from five years ago when I was the main, main guy. And now it's like, oh, well, that guy left. So now I have to do what am I going to do, make a video like, hey, do you know who I am?

01:38:32:27 - 01:38:52:15
Ken Bjonnes
I'm the guy who founded this fucking company, and I know what the fuck I'm doing, you know? So I found myself in that position recently, you know? And nothing against the guy left, you know, he wanted to do his own thing and I did my own thing. You did your own thing at one point. So it's not. It's not throwing shade at him, but it put me in a bad position slightly because it wasn't can be honest.

01:38:52:15 - 01:39:11:17
Ken Bjonnes
Motorsports that this guy was working for his Palm Beach dyno and for, five years people associated him him a little bit more with the go to guy because I didn't want to be that guy. I didn't want to be the guy where my inbox was full. I wanted to be able to go, hey, I'm going to work on this new platform, GT 500.

01:39:11:19 - 01:39:35:07
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, for three weeks straight. I'm going to live at the track for a month or whatever, and you just run the deal and you know, when it was going good, it was good, but it was also a really huge negative for my company. and, you know, this happened last year and we're fine now, and I've reestablished myself and, and I didn't even see that coming because I'm like, well, how does everybody even see it this way?

01:39:35:07 - 01:39:57:14
Ken Bjonnes
I'm the one on the YouTube channel because I, you know, I'm the one. I was still the face of the company. Yeah, but it's like, you know, because I wasn't communicating with all these people and and I've already seen it with, like, you know, Kobe we spoke about earlier, he works for me now and, and he's great and he's, he's, he's doing awesome, but he's still new, fairly new to the tuning, especially computer stuff.

01:39:57:14 - 01:40:16:27
Ken Bjonnes
He had done some standalone stuff prior and, you know, it's like Kobe tuned my car, you know, and I'm like, oh, like, you know, like, that's good because I love Kobe. And, you know, I consider him like a brother. but I'm like, ooh, I don't want to get into that same position, you know? So I have to make sure I keep myself.

01:40:16:27 - 01:40:17:21
Shane Tecklenburg
That's an interesting.

01:40:17:25 - 01:40:19:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Aspect of which I never.

01:40:19:11 - 01:40:19:15
Shane Tecklenburg
It.

01:40:19:15 - 01:40:23:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Never crossed my mind because obviously I don't have it the other way around. But yeah it's interesting.

01:40:23:13 - 01:40:35:28
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. So that's, that's you know, that's the, the flip side. You look at it somewhat as a negative, but there's nobody's going to be confused. Who's the man. Right. Who is the guy that's making the shit happen at the top. So you know you.

01:40:35:29 - 01:40:41:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Get it both ways. I mean you're obviously you're the guy making it happen when it happens, and you're also the guy that's dunking when it doesn't happen.

01:40:41:10 - 01:40:43:03
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true.

01:40:43:03 - 01:40:44:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Well, that's I mean, look, you're.

01:40:44:21 - 01:40:45:00
Ken Bjonnes
So.

01:40:45:00 - 01:40:46:26
Shane Tecklenburg
It takes constant promotion no matter.

01:40:46:26 - 01:40:51:23
Shane Tecklenburg
What. Yeah. What you want to be able to do is pick. Right.

01:40:51:25 - 01:41:01:06
Shane Tecklenburg
You want everybody to call and you want to pick the ones you know you're going to. And I mean that's what I've been able to do. And that's part of why I've been able to be successful. people ask that a lot. Like how do.

01:41:01:06 - 01:41:02:25
Shane Tecklenburg
I like and everything you work.

01:41:02:25 - 01:41:10:28
Shane Tecklenburg
On is perfect. Well firstly, it's not all perfect. I mean, obviously some shit doesn't go right. Sometimes it's out of your control and sometimes you fuck up. Whatever.

01:41:11:01 - 01:41:11:17
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah.

01:41:12:05 - 01:41:13:24
Shane Tecklenburg
but in the end.

01:41:13:26 - 01:41:15:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Picking projects.

01:41:15:17 - 01:41:17:25
Shane Tecklenburg
And being able to recognize ones.

01:41:17:25 - 01:41:39:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Where I can be successful versus ones where I can't be successful, you know, something where I can see, like, there's I got a bad vibe about this somehow, some way. This is, you know, and in some cases, I've been I've gotten into a project with somebody and realized, like, this is not going to end well. There's no way to make this come out the way it used to be, and I'll just cut my losses.

01:41:39:08 - 01:41:42:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Tell you what. Let me give you your money back. No hard feelings, whatever.

01:41:42:15 - 01:41:43:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And in the few.

01:41:43:17 - 01:41:44:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Times that I've had to do that.

01:41:45:00 - 01:41:49:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I have in both cases where I've done that, I ended up with more work.

01:41:49:24 - 01:41:52:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Out of it from that person referring other people to.

01:41:52:16 - 01:42:01:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Me that were because people that I could. Because you were upfront about, because I was up front forthright, just said, look, I can't give it you can't give you what you want.

01:42:01:16 - 01:42:04:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Let me just give you back your money and you can go somewhere else.

01:42:04:12 - 01:42:31:03
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And obviously, you know, that's this question. I don't expect you to give me any numbers, but, one thing that it was always interesting to me because I've had people. I don't do it much anymore. because I'm just busy running the business, which has become, you know, decently big. And we do parts now, I was originally to only tuning and we had parts, so I'm busy, but there was a time where, hey, man, we fly over to Puerto Rico, we fly over to Dominican Republic, we fly here, we fly there.

01:42:31:03 - 01:42:47:24
Ken Bjonnes
And it was always like, I have no idea. You know, even what to charge these people. And, you know, you're at a point now, obviously you've worked that out, but like, how did you really even figure out, like where to start? You know, like did you think you undervalued yourself at the beginning?

01:42:48:11 - 01:42:50:21
Shane Tecklenburg
well, so all right, so, you know, going.

01:42:50:21 - 01:42:52:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Back to the Motec days.

01:42:52:08 - 01:42:55:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Near the end of my 2005.

01:42:55:20 - 01:42:58:20
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, there was we were charging 500 bucks a day.

01:42:58:20 - 01:43:05:16
Shane Tecklenburg
That was the going rate, for tuning. And people always want it because people have jobs.

01:43:05:19 - 01:43:15:20
Shane Tecklenburg
And they wanted to do it on the weekends. Well, that was one of the deals. We never work on the weekends, but you know, I had a couple of customers who were like, look, I can't can you possibly do it Saturday? No, man, I'm not allowed to do it Saturday. Well, like.

01:43:15:22 - 01:43:17:08
Shane Tecklenburg
You know what if what if I paid you more?

01:43:17:08 - 01:43:25:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, well, you know, what are we talking like? What if I pay 700? Like, okay, fuck it. I'll just do it. Right. So I did it.

01:43:25:03 - 01:43:26:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And then that once.

01:43:26:12 - 01:43:32:21
Shane Tecklenburg
I did it once, it was like a never ending. So pretty soon it's like, well, no, it's 800. So then they're like, okay. And it's cash, right.

01:43:32:21 - 01:43:34:03
Shane Tecklenburg
All right. So I went back to my.

01:43:34:03 - 01:43:37:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Boss after a couple three of these deals and I went, hey.

01:43:37:28 - 01:43:38:19
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm pretty sure we.

01:43:38:19 - 01:43:41:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Can charge more than 500 bucks a day for tuning job. He's like, no.

01:43:41:06 - 01:43:43:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Fuck you kids, and you can't do it. It's impossible.

01:43:43:28 - 01:43:46:17
Shane Tecklenburg
You cannot charge more than 500. No one will ever pay it.

01:43:46:19 - 01:43:58:28
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm like, I don't know how to tell you that. I know they'll pay it right without shooting myself in the foot, but I can assure you they will pay more than 500 bucks a day. Yeah. So when I quit working.

01:43:58:28 - 01:44:04:15
Shane Tecklenburg
At Motec, I thought I need to differentiate myself from Motec. And if they're not willing to charge what I think it's worth to do.

01:44:04:15 - 01:44:06:28
Shane Tecklenburg
It, I will, because I don't need to. Because I already.

01:44:06:28 - 01:44:13:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Have a contract with the race team, or I'm going to make double the money. I made work on the boat. I'm like, I'm swimming in money. It seemed like at the time, right?

01:44:13:10 - 01:44:23:15
Shane Tecklenburg
So I said, it's a thousand bucks a day. No problem. No one complained at all. And anybody that did complain was someone I didn't want to work for anyway. It's a good.

01:44:23:15 - 01:44:24:17
Ken Bjonnes
Way to filter people out for.

01:44:24:17 - 01:44:25:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Sure.

01:44:25:04 - 01:44:33:12
Shane Tecklenburg
So that's 2006. I start I in 2006. I get this call from someone in the Middle East. I go, hey,

01:44:33:15 - 01:44:38:20
Shane Tecklenburg
We want you to come to Dubai. And we have these. We have, oh, they had a.

01:44:38:20 - 01:44:41:11
Shane Tecklenburg
Super then or not. They must have had a super anyway. So they said, look, we want.

01:44:41:11 - 01:44:42:11
Shane Tecklenburg
To come to Dubai.

01:44:42:13 - 01:44:55:11
Shane Tecklenburg
We have Sand Hill Trust. We got all these cars with low tech on them. We want you to come to them. And so you're going to come here for like, you know, two months and then, you know, you're going to be here for two months and we'll pay you whatever. And I'm like, no, that's not happening. I've got a contract with the team in the US.

01:44:55:14 - 01:45:05:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I can't come there for two months. It's like, oh, so then, you know, they call me a week later, okay, now you're going to come for one month and we're going to pay you, you know, X amount of money. It's like, no, I don't have a month like it.

01:45:05:26 - 01:45:06:10
Shane Tecklenburg
You don't get.

01:45:06:10 - 01:45:07:25
Shane Tecklenburg
It. I have a contract here and I'm not not.

01:45:07:25 - 01:45:09:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Bringing it so in. So the last.

01:45:09:26 - 01:45:10:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Time they called me.

01:45:10:22 - 01:45:15:07
Shane Tecklenburg
They said, look, you come to Dubai, we will fly you first class. We will give you.

01:45:15:07 - 01:45:18:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Half the money upfront in a wire transfer. Before you get on the airplane.

01:45:18:24 - 01:45:21:27
Shane Tecklenburg
We will put you in a five star hotel. We will limo you from.

01:45:21:27 - 01:45:23:29
Shane Tecklenburg
The hotel to wherever you have to work.

01:45:24:01 - 01:45:25:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And we will pay you.

01:45:25:08 - 01:45:30:12
Shane Tecklenburg
And you'll leave on Saturday, and you'll get back on Saturday, or maybe a Sunday.

01:45:30:14 - 01:45:30:27
Shane Tecklenburg
And we will.

01:45:30:27 - 01:45:32:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Pay you $10,000.

01:45:32:17 - 01:45:34:04
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm like, look, you could pay.

01:45:34:04 - 01:45:41:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Me $100,000. I cannot give you that amount of time. I have a contract with the team here in the US. I'm not breaking it. Right. So bottom line.

01:45:41:16 - 01:45:43:01
Shane Tecklenburg
I can't do that.

01:45:43:04 - 01:45:49:24
Shane Tecklenburg
And so they went away. So I told that story for the rest of 2006. And people are looking at me look two like I have two heads.

01:45:49:24 - 01:46:03:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Like what, $10,000 in a week? Are you fucking crazy? You. Next time you go, right. Well, okay. But now I've got a concept of what they're willing to spend in that, you know, region of the world. So I have a different.

01:46:03:03 - 01:46:03:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Contract and.

01:46:03:26 - 01:46:04:14
Shane Tecklenburg
End of 2000.

01:46:04:14 - 01:46:05:17
Shane Tecklenburg
And six, I.

01:46:05:21 - 01:46:06:17
Shane Tecklenburg
End up.

01:46:07:05 - 01:46:12:12
Shane Tecklenburg
radio doesn't know if he can renew or renew or not because he doesn't have a sponsor yet for 2006.

01:46:12:14 - 01:46:12:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Two.

01:46:12:19 - 01:46:23:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Thousand and seven. I have a team that wants me to go be a data acquisition person on a grand American road racing series car. And so they're like, look, we need you or we need somebody else. So decide. So I went back to Rado and said, look, you.

01:46:23:20 - 01:46:25:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Know, either you're going to pay me whether.

01:46:25:21 - 01:46:30:18
Shane Tecklenburg
You get a sponsor or not or I have to go take this other deal. It's like, man, just go take that other deal. I don't know what we're doing.

01:46:30:20 - 01:46:32:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Fine. But the difference.

01:46:32:20 - 01:46:33:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Was in 2000 and.

01:46:33:18 - 01:46:34:19
Shane Tecklenburg
Six, they.

01:46:34:19 - 01:46:42:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Wrote the contract and I signed it. I figured out all the pitfalls that I had in 2006 contract, and I made the 2007 contract.

01:46:42:27 - 01:46:44:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Be way.

01:46:44:06 - 01:46:47:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Further towards my line of thinking and in my favor.

01:46:47:09 - 01:46:48:00
Shane Tecklenburg
And mostly.

01:46:48:00 - 01:46:51:04
Shane Tecklenburg
What I did was define the actual days that they.

01:46:51:07 - 01:46:51:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Were.

01:46:51:21 - 01:47:03:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Paying for and everything outside of that. They had to pay me a standard daily rate, and that stopped things like, we're going to keep you on the East Coast for two weeks because we don't want to buy you plane tickets to go back and forth to California.

01:47:03:27 - 01:47:04:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Right?

01:47:04:06 - 01:47:11:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Because they didn't it didn't cost them any different. Whether I stayed one week or two weeks over the next year, I fixed that. And that gave me a lot of free time to be able to do other things.

01:47:11:29 - 01:47:13:24
Shane Tecklenburg
So we're at the.

01:47:14:02 - 01:47:30:03
Shane Tecklenburg
20 the test days at, Daytona, test days in early January for the 24, and I get a phone call and it's actually the, the, the, company that I worked with, Bullish Racing in, new Jersey saying, hey, look, that customer that you came in tuned is super like two, three years ago.

01:47:30:05 - 01:47:31:06
Shane Tecklenburg
He bought our drag car.

01:47:31:06 - 01:47:48:28
Shane Tecklenburg
He's from Bahrain. He wants somebody to come over and tune it. It's got a, you know, turbo 400 in it. Now, something you're interested in doing like. Yeah. No problem. Okay. We'll give him your number. So he calls and I lay the same shit on him like I want first or business class airfare. I want half the money up front, you know, and I, you know, be there for a week.

01:47:48:28 - 01:47:58:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Whatever I want. $10,000, like. Okay, fine. When you come in, like, oh, shit. Now, I was getting married and January, this is the middle of January. They're like, okay, go to the airport right now and get.

01:47:58:18 - 01:48:02:06
Shane Tecklenburg
On a plane. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I can't do that. So I went the week.

01:48:02:06 - 01:48:05:18
Shane Tecklenburg
After I got married, and I went to Bahrain and.

01:48:05:18 - 01:48:12:04
Shane Tecklenburg
And so we were supposed to they were. So I go to Bahrain, this thing has an M48 on it.

01:48:12:04 - 01:48:26:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Which is at that time it's a very old issue. It's really, really old now. and why which had, you know, been done, I don't know how many years before that. And then all this stuff got switched over because now it's got a 400 in the car, and it used to be a six speed.

01:48:26:04 - 01:48:30:00
Shane Tecklenburg
So it takes me and and.

01:48:30:02 - 01:48:33:10
Shane Tecklenburg
There is zero race car infrastructure over there. Okay.

01:48:33:17 - 01:48:34:16
Shane Tecklenburg
You want to go get wire.

01:48:34:19 - 01:48:37:12
Shane Tecklenburg
You're getting house wire and maybe wire nuts.

01:48:37:15 - 01:48:39:14
Shane Tecklenburg
You want bolts. You're not getting anything.

01:48:39:14 - 01:48:47:00
Shane Tecklenburg
That's saggy at all. You're getting stuff to bolt houses together or buildings or I don't know what, but it's nothing like what you are used to being able to get here.

01:48:47:03 - 01:48:51:08
Shane Tecklenburg
So the first thing is we spent two days at the whatever.

01:48:51:08 - 01:48:57:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Place we can get wire and the best terminals we can get, rewiring fans and getting them to work and reprograming and getting.

01:48:57:29 - 01:48:59:03
Shane Tecklenburg
We get all this shit done.

01:48:59:05 - 01:49:07:21
Shane Tecklenburg
It's probably about two in the morning and I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go to the dyno or like, oh, the dyno is not available. So I'm thinking, of course it's two in the morning, no problem. What we'll do in the morning.

01:49:07:24 - 01:49:08:08
Shane Tecklenburg
No, no, no.

01:49:08:13 - 01:49:09:26
Shane Tecklenburg
There's no dyno in the country.

01:49:09:28 - 01:49:12:08
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm like coming in like.

01:49:12:08 - 01:49:13:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah there's no dyno here.

01:49:13:18 - 01:49:28:12
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm like, you brought me fucking halfway across the world to tune this car and there's no dyno like, how is this going to work? So I'm like, you know, we were at a Toyota dealership. you know, it's two in the morning, so I'm like, all right, get it out on the street. Then let's try, you know, in the parking lot at Toyota dealership.

01:49:28:12 - 01:49:34:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Let's try and launch the thing and you've got to figure out nitrous and all this. So we do so short story.

01:49:34:20 - 01:49:35:16
Shane Tecklenburg
We go to the racetrack.

01:49:35:16 - 01:49:45:28
Shane Tecklenburg
They were hoping to get in the minds. It went 912. It nearly went in the eight. They think I'm a hero. they they haul me quickly back to.

01:49:45:28 - 01:49:50:08
Shane Tecklenburg
The airport and I leave. And I figure I'll never come back and ever do this again. What a cool thing I did.

01:49:50:25 - 01:49:53:03
Shane Tecklenburg
give me my money, and I go when I land.

01:49:53:03 - 01:50:06:29
Shane Tecklenburg
My phone rings. Now, all their numbers over there have way more numbers and our phone numbers out here. So when I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh, it must be, you know, Ibrahim calling to see if I made it home so I answer the phone, start talking to the person on the other line. I realize this is not the guy I just went to work for in Bahrain.

01:50:07:05 - 01:50:23:03
Shane Tecklenburg
So somebody else and he basically says, you know, this is call it. And, you know, I called you last year to come and work on my cars and you said you couldn't travel, but I know you were just in Bahrain and you worked on your case car and it went 912. And so now I want you to come to Dubai and work on my supra, and, you know, when can you come?

01:50:23:03 - 01:50:29:00
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm like, well, yeah, you know, I mean, I'm literally walking out of the airport at LAX and he's kind of saying like, okay.

01:50:29:03 - 01:50:29:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Go buy a ticket.

01:50:29:26 - 01:50:31:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Right now and get back on a plane and come back to.

01:50:31:20 - 01:50:36:14
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, Dubai. And I'm like, no, no, I'm going to see my wife and I'm going to be home for a little while. And.

01:50:36:17 - 01:50:39:20
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I can't I can't just come back there and do that.

01:50:39:22 - 01:50:44:03
Shane Tecklenburg
But in the end it was like, yeah, okay, you want me to come back? I can come back at this time.

01:50:44:03 - 01:50:53:28
Shane Tecklenburg
And you know, here's what it's going to take. Yep. No problem. And they did it. And I went and that one was a, So this is great. I should have quit after this because it was never going to be better than this.

01:50:53:28 - 01:50:56:04
Shane Tecklenburg
So, the deal was, you.

01:50:56:04 - 01:51:10:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Said, look, I bought my super in the U.S. it went 788. We brought it over here a little ago. Late 40s. We've done all kinds of work. Work to it. Do you think it can go in the sevens? I'm like, well, went the sevens before. Probably can go in the sevens again.

01:51:10:04 - 01:51:11:28
Shane Tecklenburg
So to tell you what you come over here.

01:51:11:28 - 01:51:15:23
Shane Tecklenburg
You get my super to run the sevens. I'll give you 20,000 as a bonus. So I'm like.

01:51:15:27 - 01:51:17:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay, but you still owe me the.

01:51:17:24 - 01:51:25:04
Shane Tecklenburg
10 or 11,000 you're going to owe me for coming over there anyway when it doesn't run in the sevens, because there's about a million reasons why it won't run a seven, then it got nothing to do with.

01:51:25:04 - 01:51:27:00
Ken Bjonnes
Me. Yeah, we're not placing a bet here. Yeah.

01:51:27:02 - 01:51:29:08
Shane Tecklenburg
It's like. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. So anyway, short.

01:51:29:08 - 01:51:31:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Story 798.

01:51:31:11 - 01:51:32:16
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm thinking he's.

01:51:32:16 - 01:51:49:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Going to renege and forget all about that country. You know that conversation that we had and note to his word I, you know, as soon as he came out I mean, they were just absolutely doing backflips. That was the first super outside the US to run in the sevens. So they were they were just ecstatic. And you know, he came up and he said, man, that was bad.

01:51:49:27 - 01:52:04:25
Shane Tecklenburg
As I said, you know, was it worth 20 grand? He's like, hell yeah, that was worth 20 grand. So I'm like, okay, cool. He hasn't forgotten that part. That's good. So, he's from another country from Qatar. We're in Dubai. And, so he leaves with his kind of his entourage.

01:52:04:25 - 01:52:08:00
Shane Tecklenburg
You know, I don't really. They told me that chic, but doesn't mean anything to me.

01:52:08:00 - 01:52:08:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Really. I didn't.

01:52:08:14 - 01:52:11:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Get it. Cut. So he leaves.

01:52:11:19 - 01:52:25:24
Shane Tecklenburg
And then the next day we run the car in the race, and I think we lose in the semis or something like that. And, this guy comes over to me and he's got a bag and he's like, you know, the sheikh would like to offer this token of his appreciation for the job you've done here and really proud of what you've accomplished.

01:52:25:24 - 01:52:34:01
Shane Tecklenburg
And, you know, you really want to say thank you. So here it is. So I'm trying to play it cool. My oh, cool. Thanks. And I take the bag I don't look at it or nothing. And I go back in the garage.

01:52:34:01 - 01:52:34:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Because this.

01:52:34:15 - 01:52:39:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Is like out in the middle of the racetrack. And I'm thinking, this is fucking my 20 grand in cash in a bag or what is this?

01:52:39:28 - 01:52:43:27
Shane Tecklenburg
So I go in the garage and,

01:52:44:00 - 01:52:48:01
Shane Tecklenburg
I wait till no one's looking. And then I look in this bag and there's a green box in there, and it's got a gold.

01:52:48:03 - 01:52:53:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Like emblem on it, and I'm like, I know that emblem. What is it? There's no words. And I'm thinking, what the fuck is that? But I.

01:52:53:21 - 01:52:55:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Don't want to look in front of everybody because I don't, you.

01:52:55:08 - 01:52:57:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Know, I'm trying to play it cool. So when they finally aren't.

01:52:57:26 - 01:53:06:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Really paying any attention, I open the thing up and it's a Rolex. In 2007, I was working in the Rolex. Rolex sponsors Grand Am. Right.

01:53:06:03 - 01:53:07:00
Shane Tecklenburg
So every racetrack.

01:53:07:00 - 01:53:08:18
Shane Tecklenburg
You go to has the little green flags with.

01:53:08:18 - 01:53:17:13
Shane Tecklenburg
The gold crown. That's why I knew the emblem, but I couldn't, I couldn't quite put it together. So yeah, that was, about 12 days worth of work.

01:53:17:15 - 01:53:24:14
Shane Tecklenburg
And it was business class. And they put me in the crazy hotel in Dubai that's out in the middle of the bay. That looks like a sailboat.

01:53:25:01 - 01:53:26:17
Shane Tecklenburg
and,

01:53:26:20 - 01:53:30:14
Shane Tecklenburg
And, that was 34,000 and a Rolex.

01:53:30:14 - 01:53:32:02
Shane Tecklenburg
That's insane. And I should have.

01:53:32:02 - 01:53:35:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Quit and never gone back because it was never going to be better than. How could you top that?

01:53:35:09 - 01:53:57:29
Ken Bjonnes
Right? Yeah. Yeah, it's funny you say that because, some of the best experience I've had with those situations were where I didn't want to go. And I'm like, that'll be like, there's a big dance scene and they're like, okay, okay. And I'm like, oh, God damn, I should ask for more. You know? So it's a it's it's really cool because, you know, like you said, you're you're making these people's dreams come true.

01:53:58:05 - 01:54:19:27
Ken Bjonnes
And it's easy to forget that at some point. But when somebody has obviously he's a chic, he has the money. So to to be able to do that, it's like, wow. Like I really affected these guys lives. Like it's it's kind of cool that and you're doing that through horsepower and cars and and you know, I get that feeling a lot.

01:54:19:27 - 01:54:34:27
Ken Bjonnes
You know we do a lot of volume and we constantly you know I go to a race and it's so nice to have people come up to you and be like, hey man, I just wanted to shake your hand. Thank you for making my car fast. And it's like, man, it's really cool. And it's not like, you know, I'm not curing cancer or anything.

01:54:34:29 - 01:54:35:12
Shane Tecklenburg
No, no, no.

01:54:35:12 - 01:54:38:06
Ken Bjonnes
But it's cool to bring so much happiness to people's lives this way.

01:54:38:06 - 01:54:39:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Undoubtedly. Look, you know.

01:54:39:28 - 01:54:44:26
Shane Tecklenburg
In almost every situation, every project that I've ever been involved with in 20 years, you know.

01:54:44:26 - 01:54:47:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Inevitably it goes it the lines.

01:54:47:24 - 01:54:52:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Cross between a business relationship into a friendship, you know, and so you.

01:54:52:07 - 01:54:57:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Get personal with these people and you, you know, you enjoy them and you know, and.

01:54:57:04 - 01:55:05:20
Shane Tecklenburg
And so, you know, if I, if I could, if I won the lottery, odds are, I mean, look, if I won enough in the lottery, maybe you'd never see me again and I'd be on an island somewhere.

01:55:05:20 - 01:55:14:24
Shane Tecklenburg
But but in reality, I like what I'm doing. Right. And if I won the lottery, I would probably still do it right. Because it's that feeling.

01:55:14:24 - 01:55:15:20
Shane Tecklenburg
That you're talking about.

01:55:15:20 - 01:55:19:17
Shane Tecklenburg
That it's if if I didn't need the money to pay all my bills, that's what.

01:55:19:17 - 01:55:22:15
Shane Tecklenburg
Is real. That's what I'm, you know, I'm a I'm a terrible businessman, right?

01:55:22:18 - 01:55:25:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. I barely do well enough at the business.

01:55:25:25 - 01:55:26:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Aspect of it.

01:55:26:25 - 01:55:28:15
Shane Tecklenburg
To be able to afford to keep.

01:55:28:15 - 01:55:29:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Fucking around with cars.

01:55:29:24 - 01:55:30:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Right.

01:55:30:03 - 01:55:35:08
Shane Tecklenburg
It's that's what I like. I mean, that's what I'm really doing. I'm just playing around with cars and living out my.

01:55:35:11 - 01:55:35:24
Shane Tecklenburg
You know.

01:55:35:24 - 01:55:39:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Fantasy. If you want through other people's money, buying the best.

01:55:39:01 - 01:55:40:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Because nothing I have.

01:55:40:06 - 01:55:42:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Is as nice as the stuff I work on every day.

01:55:42:11 - 01:55:42:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Now, people are always.

01:55:42:29 - 01:55:44:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Asking, what? What's your personal.

01:55:44:01 - 01:55:52:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Project? Well, my project is 20 years old and it was all secondhand swap meet shit back then, and I don't even want to look at it now, right? And I get paid to work on the best.

01:55:52:07 - 01:55:54:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Parts money can buy Monday through Friday.

01:55:54:13 - 01:55:58:06
Shane Tecklenburg
I don't want to even consider doing anything to my own stuff. Yeah.

01:55:58:08 - 01:56:27:00
Ken Bjonnes
It's such a cool, hobby to be involved in. And and it's true. Like you, you form these personal relationships with these people and like, at the racetrack. But the flip side of that, you said you had, you know, a couple times where you just cut your losses beyond that, is there an in-between where you're you're working for people, you're not firing them as a customer, but it's just like, man, I just don't really like working for this guy.

01:56:27:02 - 01:56:29:19
Ken Bjonnes
Or is it usually almost always a positive experience?

01:56:29:19 - 01:56:31:00
Shane Tecklenburg
No, no, no, it's not 90.

01:56:31:00 - 01:56:35:07
Shane Tecklenburg
9%, 99.5 or 9. I mean, way up there percentage a positive.

01:56:35:07 - 01:56:36:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Because you just cut.

01:56:36:17 - 01:56:38:27
Shane Tecklenburg
You just cut your losses. I had one recently.

01:56:38:27 - 01:56:39:09
Shane Tecklenburg
That.

01:56:39:09 - 01:56:41:22
Shane Tecklenburg
Was a several years.

01:56:41:24 - 01:56:57:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Pain in the ass. And I kept trying to because I, I liked him for at least what he said he was about. Right. But in the end, you know, I was like, fuck, it's too hard. It's not worth my money. It's not worth my time for the money. I can go make the same money.

01:56:57:16 - 01:56:58:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Working on something where it's not a.

01:56:58:28 - 01:57:04:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Pain in the ass. And I was trying to help the guy. I wanted to see him succeed, but it just. Just. There was too many things stacked against.

01:57:04:26 - 01:57:11:06
Shane Tecklenburg
So when he, he actually said, hey, look, man, I'm going to go a different direction. Like, you know what? Good luck. I that's great. That's a good plan for you.

01:57:11:17 - 01:57:13:22
Shane Tecklenburg
and I do wish him the best. I hope he achieves what.

01:57:13:22 - 01:57:21:03
Shane Tecklenburg
He's trying to achieve. I don't think he ever will because of the way he's going about it. And no matter who he tries to get to help him. And that's part of the problem. He's like, likes to shop.

01:57:21:06 - 01:57:22:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Right. And try and find you.

01:57:22:21 - 01:57:30:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Get the answer out. This guy this week and that guy this week. But that. So there's one guy that recently was like he took care of himself.

01:57:30:05 - 01:57:32:25
Ken Bjonnes
Was this the guy that fucked you over for this stripper's another.

01:57:32:25 - 01:57:36:22
Shane Tecklenburg
No, no, these these guys or these guys are jack.

01:57:36:22 - 01:57:40:04
Shane Tecklenburg
Offs. And, you know, it's a it's a company here in Phoenix.

01:57:40:23 - 01:57:41:03
Shane Tecklenburg
they.

01:57:41:03 - 01:57:42:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Called me probably a month ago.

01:57:42:05 - 01:57:44:21
Shane Tecklenburg
And I kind of. This is, you know, you always got to feel these things out.

01:57:44:21 - 01:57:54:22
Shane Tecklenburg
A little bit. And you want to be fair to everybody when they first. Can't you just want to blow them off or be an asshole about it? But, you know, I contact me about these two sand rails. He says, hey, I'm from Phoenix, and, you know, I got these two sand rails and they.

01:57:54:22 - 01:57:55:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Got engines.

01:57:55:24 - 01:57:56:24
Shane Tecklenburg
In him from redline and they.

01:57:56:24 - 01:57:57:25
Shane Tecklenburg
Don't run, right.

01:57:57:27 - 01:58:10:18
Shane Tecklenburg
So there's the first clue, like something's probably not right because redline are not idiots. I know those guys and they're, you know, so there's some there's something more this story that I don't know, but I'm like, okay, fine. So look, if you want to do that, here's what we need to do. We need to get a dyno.

01:58:10:18 - 01:58:11:25
Shane Tecklenburg
And so you got two of them.

01:58:11:25 - 01:58:27:28
Shane Tecklenburg
We really need to probably book two days. Even if we don't need it, we can always use one if we get finished in time. But we don't want to have to try and come up with another day when we've only booked one. So, you know, this is how much it cost per day. And you'll have to be responsible for airfare, hotel and all that stuff and are like, okay, so when can we do it?

01:58:27:28 - 01:58:33:19
Shane Tecklenburg
So I'll say, okay, well, they're they passed the first test because they didn't say, you know, that's outrageous. I would never pay that much.

01:58:34:29 - 01:58:40:19
Shane Tecklenburg
so then it was like, look, I, I really don't have time to do this unless I, you know, do something, cut something.

01:58:40:19 - 01:58:50:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Else out in the meantime, which I don't want to do. So first time I can do. It was probably about a month ago when I said it would be the tomorrow and the next day, which be the 12th and the 13th of June. And so they said.

01:58:50:20 - 01:58:51:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Okay, let's do it.

01:58:51:25 - 01:58:52:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, all right, fine.

01:58:52:17 - 01:58:55:11
Shane Tecklenburg
So look for all of history.

01:58:55:14 - 01:59:09:03
Shane Tecklenburg
If someone says they want me on a certain date, I mean, that's it. You don't have to call me 40 times and I call them obviously, at some point as we approach, get back together and go, hey, this is still go, right? Yes, I'm going to book this hotel, blah, blah, blah. And then they know.

01:59:09:14 - 01:59:10:29
Shane Tecklenburg
but you know, if they need to.

01:59:10:29 - 01:59:13:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Cancel whatever, just call me and say, hey, that's not going to work.

01:59:13:20 - 01:59:16:18
Shane Tecklenburg
And no problem. The thing is, I'm selling my life.

01:59:16:20 - 01:59:17:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Right? And so.

01:59:17:19 - 01:59:20:27
Shane Tecklenburg
The problem is, if I if you commit to a day of.

01:59:20:27 - 01:59:22:13
Shane Tecklenburg
My life that I'm going to sell to you.

01:59:22:15 - 01:59:26:29
Shane Tecklenburg
And then you decide you don't want that day anymore, you know, it's up to me to.

01:59:26:29 - 01:59:31:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Decide if it's worth it to have that day back for myself, or if I need to sell it to somebody else.

01:59:31:28 - 01:59:32:21
Shane Tecklenburg
But if I can't.

01:59:32:21 - 01:59:35:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Sell it to somebody else, then that's a problem.

01:59:35:20 - 01:59:36:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Now, usually.

01:59:36:16 - 01:59:44:09
Shane Tecklenburg
It's not that big of a deal because I'm busy enough that I can just book somebody else. Somebody's waiting, whatever, you know, or I say, hey, I don't want to do anything that day. I got other shit to do. And that's fine.

01:59:44:12 - 01:59:46:08
Shane Tecklenburg
In this case, because.

01:59:46:08 - 01:59:56:14
Shane Tecklenburg
I was supposed to be coming tomorrow on the next day, we decided and talked about this podcasting. I'm like, you know what? That'll work. I'll fly a day early, we can do the podcast and I'll tune the cars and blah, blah, blah. So that's how we'll set it all up.

01:59:56:16 - 02:00:04:06
Shane Tecklenburg
And so, you know, these guys don't say anything. And it gets to be about a week ago. And I happened to be on Instagram and my.

02:00:04:06 - 02:00:08:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Buddy Abraham Alva is posted. post on Instagram.

02:00:08:14 - 02:00:11:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Where he's tuning these Tatum.

02:00:11:03 - 02:00:14:08
Shane Tecklenburg
Sand rails, you know, with an M1 30 in Phoenix.

02:00:14:08 - 02:00:20:04
Shane Tecklenburg
And I'm thinking, what are the odds of this? So I messaged around, I'm like, hey, let me guess, you're working on two.

02:00:20:04 - 02:00:24:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Tatum sand rails with two redline engines in them with M1 30s, right? And he's like.

02:00:24:07 - 02:00:30:28
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, great. So these guys were simple. He said, yeah, yeah. The owners are from Mexico. Like, yeah, yeah. These guys told me.

02:00:30:28 - 02:00:33:03
Shane Tecklenburg
That I'm supposed to be tuning their cars next week.

02:00:33:05 - 02:00:43:13
Shane Tecklenburg
Right? And they booked. So then I messaged those guys and go, hey, we still on for next week. I'm just booking the travel, you know, and then they come back on. Oh. no. Well, we, we, we decided to go a different direction.

02:00:43:13 - 02:00:50:14
Shane Tecklenburg
Like. Yeah. Okay. Jack off. All you have to do is call me and tell me that that's what's going on. But instead, I figure it out the long way around, right?

02:00:50:18 - 02:00:53:28
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. So what a bunch of bullshit. It's it's crazy.

02:00:53:29 - 02:00:55:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So listen, in the end.

02:00:55:11 - 02:00:57:09
Shane Tecklenburg
That's really my fault.

02:00:57:11 - 02:00:58:24
Shane Tecklenburg
For not.

02:00:58:24 - 02:01:06:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Charging a nonrefundable deposit for my day. Had I told those guys, listen. And I should have done it because I already could smell a.

02:01:06:09 - 02:01:14:01
Shane Tecklenburg
Rat to begin with, and then, you know, they're not they're not customers that I have a history with. So I should have.

02:01:14:01 - 02:01:24:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Protected myself by saying I need you to give me money upfront to lock those days in, but I just really have never had that be a problem, you know, up to this point. And even then, I mean, look, this.

02:01:24:06 - 02:01:25:06
Shane Tecklenburg
Isn't it's not like.

02:01:25:06 - 02:01:27:18
Shane Tecklenburg
The end of the world, right? I just came here and we did it anyway.

02:01:27:18 - 02:01:31:09
Shane Tecklenburg
But but it's still like that gives me the, the impetus.

02:01:31:09 - 02:01:34:22
Shane Tecklenburg
To implement something like that going forward to protect myself. That's you know.

02:01:34:29 - 02:01:35:05
Shane Tecklenburg
They.

02:01:35:05 - 02:01:36:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Burned me. That's my fault this time.

02:01:36:26 - 02:01:43:12
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. Right. And it's you know, it's cool that you've gone this long without running into that problem, but it has to do with the clientele that.

02:01:43:14 - 02:01:47:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Mostly I'm not working with jack offs. I just happened to let two got through the filter this time.

02:01:47:12 - 02:01:51:25
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. You think it was? They were just super impatient. And your buddy could do it sooner than you.

02:01:51:25 - 02:01:55:25
Shane Tecklenburg
I'm sure that. I'm sure there's a legitimate reason. I don't think there was any kind of.

02:01:55:25 - 02:01:56:16
Shane Tecklenburg
They weren't trying to.

02:01:56:20 - 02:02:00:14
Shane Tecklenburg
They weren't trying to cause a problem. I'm sure they got busy and forgot about, you know, saying anything to.

02:02:00:14 - 02:02:08:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Me, but it would have been nice. but it is interesting because they waited three weeks for him to do it. One week before.

02:02:08:03 - 02:02:08:15
Shane Tecklenburg
I was going to.

02:02:08:15 - 02:02:09:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Do it. Yeah.

02:02:09:10 - 02:02:13:25
Shane Tecklenburg
So yeah, I'm sure they may they had their reasons for doing it. That's fine. But but.

02:02:14:02 - 02:02:16:15
Shane Tecklenburg
But if I had implemented a.

02:02:16:15 - 02:02:21:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Nonrefundable deposit, I wouldn't have even cared. Yeah, right. I just take the money. I didn't have any.

02:02:21:16 - 02:02:22:24
Shane Tecklenburg
I don't don't don't even call me.

02:02:22:24 - 02:02:23:14
Shane Tecklenburg
That's even better.

02:02:23:18 - 02:02:24:29
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. We don't need money to do nothing.

02:02:25:00 - 02:02:45:03
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, unfortunately, we have to do that with, with our Dino. It's like. It's like we had just rash. Like. It's like every other day. Somebody's not showing up, so we charge a nonrefundable deposit and people still don't show up. But, yeah, they. I make money for doing that. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Anyway, I was kind of hoping you were still going to tune in, because I was going to ask you if I could, come check it out, but.

02:02:45:08 - 02:02:46:12
Shane Tecklenburg
By all means, no problem.

02:02:46:12 - 02:02:51:21
Ken Bjonnes
I'd love to. I don't know, spy on you a little bit, see what's going on.

02:02:51:22 - 02:02:53:23
Shane Tecklenburg
I just see do shit wrong.

02:02:53:26 - 02:03:16:04
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, I just really want to get into that that that that mode eventually. you know, I did start playing with Motec recently, and it went, okay. You know, it was, the new Gt500 stuff. And they have custom firmware where it talks to the TCM, and, I got it to, you know, you know, I was it made power on the dyno did all good.

02:03:16:06 - 02:03:32:11
Ken Bjonnes
But, you know, I still got a lot to learn there. And I think I need to go take some classes or really understand it, because my big problem was, you know, I didn't I didn't want to bother you. And, you know, we're we're not that good of friends, you know, like, I don't want to work like.

02:03:32:13 - 02:03:32:24
Shane Tecklenburg
It wouldn't.

02:03:32:24 - 02:03:35:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Work anyway because I don't I don't know that firmware.

02:03:35:16 - 02:03:51:09
Ken Bjonnes
Well, that's what I tell people all the time. I think somebody actually mentioned, like, you know, you, you know, you're friends with Paul and you know Shane a little bit maybe I go, but the problem is it's very specific to that firmware. Right. And the issue I was having was how it was influencing the transmission. Right. You know, so it's.

02:03:51:16 - 02:03:51:23
Shane Tecklenburg
I wouldn't.

02:03:51:23 - 02:03:53:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Have been able to answer that at all. Right. I haven't played with it.

02:03:53:25 - 02:04:10:23
Ken Bjonnes
So it's like creating a torque model and reporting a torque value to the trans. And and it was fine even driving it, it was literally the first five feet and the clutch engagement. And I'm like, I think I don't know that there's that many Motec people that could help me with this. I, you know, I try to get help from Motec and they help me as best they could.

02:04:10:25 - 02:04:12:04
Shane Tecklenburg
But it got to that. I've made a.

02:04:12:04 - 02:04:27:24
Shane Tecklenburg
Concerted effort to stay away from those like the Gt-r. Perfect. People want me to tune Gt-r all the time. It's like, man, I don't have a Gt-r. That's an extremely complex firmware and vehicle to be able to tune. Being from California, if you touch anything.

02:04:27:27 - 02:04:28:06
Shane Tecklenburg
And it.

02:04:28:06 - 02:04:30:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Doesn't pass emissions, you're liable.

02:04:30:11 - 02:04:30:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah.

02:04:30:21 - 02:04:35:27
Shane Tecklenburg
To be able to fix that back to the point where it'll pass emissions. So I don't do any streetcar shit at all. It's all race car.

02:04:36:00 - 02:04:40:00
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. And then I don't want to do any. You know it's going to have to be some.

02:04:40:00 - 02:04:41:12
Shane Tecklenburg
Pretty race specific.

02:04:41:12 - 02:04:42:09
Shane Tecklenburg
Something.

02:04:42:11 - 02:04:52:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Not not a, not a hurricane. Not a not a not a Ferrari, not any kind of the street vehicle stuff like, not that GT that's just not my bag. I, I know there's way.

02:04:52:02 - 02:05:04:24
Shane Tecklenburg
More to make it work correctly to know than I know. and I tell people like, look, you know, if you want me to do it, if you are just absolutely, you know, dead set, that you have to.

02:05:04:24 - 02:05:05:05
Shane Tecklenburg
Have me.

02:05:05:05 - 02:05:06:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Tuning it, I'll do it.

02:05:06:17 - 02:05:09:07
Shane Tecklenburg
But you have to understand, you're going to be paying me to learn.

02:05:09:09 - 02:05:12:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, right. And it's going to cost you a lot of money for me to.

02:05:12:26 - 02:05:18:02
Shane Tecklenburg
Learn how to do what someone like, say, Tony. Paolo already knows how to do with the Gt-r.

02:05:18:08 - 02:05:18:26
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah. You know.

02:05:18:26 - 02:05:26:25
Shane Tecklenburg
You're going to you're going to you're going to spend your money in a better way, going to someone that has more expertise than I have at that, at that, you know, at that particular job.

02:05:26:28 - 02:05:43:20
Ken Bjonnes
I think that all the time I have customers, really good customers. And then they like either switch brands or they go to a they add a car and they're like, hey man, I got a new car. And HP just came out with a tuning to my car. I go, no, yeah. Or even if it's like a car, it's been around a while that there's people that are qualified for that.

02:05:43:20 - 02:05:50:18
Ken Bjonnes
I'm like, dude, like I would be the worst possible choice. Like, I know,

02:05:50:21 - 02:05:52:10
Shane Tecklenburg
Like, I don't know anything.

02:05:52:10 - 02:06:08:09
Ken Bjonnes
About that car. I have no idea what kind of driving that car wants. I have no idea. Like you like me. Because in two seconds, when I see a problem, I'm like, it's that because. Not because I'm a genius. Not because I have some magical powers. It's because that's fun to me.

02:06:08:11 - 02:06:11:18
Shane Tecklenburg
I know the classic. I'm selling that and now I know.

02:06:11:18 - 02:06:29:22
Ken Bjonnes
But so, you know, we we did have that happen with mechanical work. The, a little bit on a the guy calls us and like, hey, we just want to put a cap back on like C8. That's it. And my guys are like, hey man, can we get to C8 and do the cap backwards? Easy money. I know it's never easy money.

02:06:29:22 - 02:06:30:08
Ken Bjonnes
Right? There's your.

02:06:30:08 - 02:06:31:12
Shane Tecklenburg
First mistake. Whatever.

02:06:31:15 - 02:06:45:07
Ken Bjonnes
Go ahead. Well, guess what? It comes in and it's got all these check engine lights for the exhaust valves. And you need some special fucking tool to fix it. So when my shop manager has to put it on a trailer, take it to our buddy shop. An hour away, and you're trying to do, like.

02:06:45:08 - 02:06:46:21
Shane Tecklenburg
A favor and you make $100 for.

02:06:46:21 - 02:06:48:03
Shane Tecklenburg
Or knowing we probably.

02:06:48:03 - 02:06:53:00
Ken Bjonnes
Lost money because I lost my guy for. I have to go. Go. Okay. Your car's program.

02:06:53:00 - 02:06:56:25
Shane Tecklenburg
So which, you know, in the end, if you're going to invest the time to do multiples.

02:06:56:25 - 02:07:01:20
Shane Tecklenburg
Of those, then you can maybe get it back. You eat shit on the first couple of, but then you got it figured out just exactly like what.

02:07:01:20 - 02:07:02:21
Shane Tecklenburg
You do on.

02:07:02:21 - 02:07:06:18
Shane Tecklenburg
A daily basis for your bread and butter. But to bring in some new thing, like, I'm just going to.

02:07:06:18 - 02:07:12:17
Shane Tecklenburg
Eat crap and I could, I could work on three mustangs and make 12 times the money in half the time of.

02:07:12:17 - 02:07:13:21
Shane Tecklenburg
Working on this thing where I'm not.

02:07:13:21 - 02:07:14:16
Shane Tecklenburg
Going to make any money.

02:07:14:16 - 02:07:17:21
Ken Bjonnes
Right. And that's and I go, it's one thing if we're all standing out here with.

02:07:17:21 - 02:07:18:07
Shane Tecklenburg
Nothing to.

02:07:18:07 - 02:07:31:11
Ken Bjonnes
Do, I don't care what you got, let's bring it in and work on it. But if we're busy, why are we going to give our time? Like, yeah, whatever the time at that shop would charge that does that all the time. We we have to charge the same. We can't charge extra because we don't know what the fuck we're doing.

02:07:31:17 - 02:07:34:09
Shane Tecklenburg
So you'd be better off telling him, yes, I'll do it for this.

02:07:34:09 - 02:07:37:27
Shane Tecklenburg
Amount of money. And when they agreed to it, take it to that guy and let him do it. Yeah. And then hand it back to.

02:07:38:00 - 02:07:52:20
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, we would definitely been in good shape there. All right Shane I really appreciate you making a special trip here. You didn't have to do that. Even though those guys fucked you over. You came here to do my podcast and I really appreciate it. It's been great to meet you. I hope we can stay in touch. And, maybe do it again.

02:07:52:23 - 02:08:01:18
Shane Tecklenburg
Yeah, that sounds great. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate what you're doing. I think it's very important for the industry, you know, and, especially up and coming people into the industry, which we need more of.

02:08:01:23 - 02:08:16:25
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah. And I learned a lot about you, honestly. I mean, you know, like I said, I followed your career, but there was a lot of things I didn't know. I didn't know all the, you know, the beginnings of the the phone deal and the snap on deal. I had no idea of your history before Motec. So it was really cool to to learn all that about you.

02:08:16:26 - 02:08:27:16
Shane Tecklenburg
People ask me all the time, like, how do I get to be able to do what, you know, what you're doing? What's the path like? You don't want to take the path I took to get here. And yeah, and because you can't take that path, you can never be in the shoes that I'm in.

02:08:27:18 - 02:08:33:25
Ken Bjonnes
Yeah, but the important thing is, is you're not going to be able to get anywhere unless you give it a shot. That's true. Yep.

02:08:33:27 - 02:08:37:08
Shane Tecklenburg
So so advice to young people out there. Put your phone down. Get to.

02:08:37:08 - 02:08:39:23
Shane Tecklenburg
Work. Thanks a lot. Can I appreciate you, man.

02:08:39:24 - 02:08:41:04
Ken Bjonnes
That's great advice. Thanks.